CAPRC Marksmanship Clinic "B" 4-26-15

Post by **AR15barrels** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:10 pm

Come on out and join us at Angeles for the 2nd part of our new precision rifle shooter series of clinics on Sunday April 26th.
This shoot will have you gathering dope from a 100yd zero out to 600yds as well as work on spotting and calling shots and making corrections from calls.
We will be continuing with using the features of the scope and how to make accurate soft dope from your hard dope using ballistics software.
You need to have attended (as a shooter) one of our former "A" clinics in order to attend this clinic as a shooter.
We will limit this to 20 shooters so that those shooters can get maximum range time.
Fees are $75 for non members or $50 for club members.
The entry fee covers the classroom sessions, cold drinks and BBQ lunch and your use of the range for the rest of the day after the clinic is over.
Plan on a full day as the schedule has us shooting until at least 3pm.
You may participate as a non-shooter, observe the shooting portion of the day and join us for the BBQ for a reduced $25 non-shooter fee.

Tentative schedule as follows:
7:15 Sign-in
7:30 Classroom session on the firing line.
8:15 line goes hot. verify, correct and zero knobs at 100yds (5-10 rds)
10:00 open shooting time with instruction as needed
12:00 BBQ lunch break
1:00 open shooting time with instruction as needed

Some things to bring:
Precision bolt rifle wearing a scope with target knobs, eye/ear protection, sunscreen, chamber flag, 80 rounds of match quality ammo, printout from a ballistics program showing your bullet drop in moa or mils as appropriate to your scope, shooting mat or blanket, bipod, some kind of rear bag or sand sock, small notepad and a pencil or pen to take notes.
Bring what you have, don't worry too much about what you don't have.
We always make do with what we have.

This is a Precision Rifle event so if the gun/scope/ammo is not capable of shooting 1moa groups, it will detract from your overall experience at the shoot.
Please have your rifle zeroed at 100yds and your knobs set to zero before you arrive on the day of the shoot.
We will verify a correct zero at the shoot, but it takes time that is better spent putting rounds on targets.

We are also looking for our experienced club members to show up and help instruct.
If you are able to help on the line, please RSVP anytime.

RSVP's for CaPRC club member shooters will be accepted after 12 noon on Friday 4/3/15.
RSVP's for non club member shooters will be accepted after 12 noon on Friday 4/10/15.
Any RSVP's posted before those times will be ignored or deleted.

The following people will work the line:
AR15barrels
Robojet
Treadstone
oni
postal
Tackman11
nevertipsy
Capnjon
gau17
thegiff
glenn_ma

The following people have acceptably RSVP'd as shooters:
92E2
b1gdave32
Hollywood_Shooter
warpspeed
Brian308
hj_s14
Deeooo
Mudlol
GEEKMEDIC
elcajon
trailtundra
djbiggs
bosko
EBR Works
Lornev
mintis

Waiting list is here:

GEEKMEDIC · Post by **GEEKMEDIC** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:08 pm

Just booked my hotel for this class. Trying to get my re-loads dialed in so that I can shoot them at the class and get some good dope. Definitely looking forward to this one

Post by **robojet** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:26 pm

Robojet and Treadstone can help

92E2 · Post by **92E2** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:00 am

Please delete this account.

b1gdave32 · Post by **b1gdave32** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:00 am

I'll be there

Post by **Hollywood_Shooter** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:00 am

IN to shoot....

Site clock not Daylight Savings Time adjusted...

speedjunkie · Post by **speedjunkie** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:00 am

I'll be there...

Post by **warpspeed** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:00 am

I will be there

Brian308 · Post by **Brian308** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:00 am

I'll be there.

hj_s14 · Post by **hj_s14** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:00 am

I will be there

Deeooo · Post by **Deeooo** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:01 am

I will be there

Mudlol · Post by **Mudlol** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:05 am

I will be there

92E2 · Post by **92E2** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:05 am

Please delete this account.

GEEKMEDIC · Post by **GEEKMEDIC** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:11 am

I will be there

elcajon · Post by **elcajon** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:30 am

I will be there

Post by **oni** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:58 am

Put me down for helping

Post by **trailtundra** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:16 pm

I will be there

postal · Post by **postal** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:27 pm

If Brad is grilling again.... Def in to help...

That is some GOOD FOOD!!!!!!

djbiggs · Post by **djbiggs** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:33 pm

I will be there

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Post by **autoessentials** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:42 pm

I will help.

GEEKMEDIC · Post by **GEEKMEDIC** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:06 pm

postal wrote:If Brad is grilling again.... Def in to help...

That is some GOOD FOOD!!!!!!

Brad does cook up some mean grub. And he knows a thing or two about shooting as well.

Looking forward to more of both.

Erik_J · Post by **Erik_J** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:14 pm

I will be there.

Tackman11 · Post by **Tackman11** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:29 pm

I will help out

nevertipsy · Post by **nevertipsy** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:07 pm

I will help

Post by **Capnjon** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:28 pm

I will help

Post by **citpeks2000** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:44 pm

I'll be there to shoot.

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:45 pm

In to eat

postal · Post by **postal** » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:59 am

LOL!!!! ^^^^

bosko · Post by **bosko** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:08 am

I will be there!!

nevertipsy · Post by **nevertipsy** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:17 pm

Just wanted to throw this out there for some of the beginners that are reloading, I highly suggest you complete load development if you haven't already before attending this clinic, it will maximize your benefit from this clinic. If you are using factory match ammo, disregard my comment ^_^

Post by **citpeks2000** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:05 am

I'm afraid I have to cancel, Randall. Looks like I have to be out of town that weekend.

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:17 am

In to help

GEEKMEDIC · Post by **GEEKMEDIC** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:40 am

nevertipsy wrote:Just wanted to throw this out there for some of the beginners that are reloading, I highly suggest you complete load development if you haven't already before attending this clinic, it will maximize your benefit from this clinic. If you are using factory match ammo, disregard my comment ^_^

Thanks for the advice Bruce. I am Frantically working to get enough range time before the 25th. Had to leave town for a week unexpectedly, which put a dent in those plans. It did allow me to drop my rifle off at Timney for a new trigger though, which is a bonus

I think I can still cram enough range time in to get a handle on my load for Varget before then. I was hoping to dial in a load for 4064 as well so that I can decide which one to get dope for. I think Varget is the better choice either way, so that's the one I went with first, but I always like to have choices.

Mudlol · Post by **Mudlol** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:20 am

GEEKMEDIC wrote:
Thanks for the advice Bruce. I am Frantically working to get enough range time before the 25th. Had to leave town for a week unexpectedly, which put a dent in those plans. It did allow me to drop my rifle off at Timney for a new trigger though, which is a bonus I think I can still cram enough range time in to get a handle on my load for Varget before then. I was hoping to dial in a load for 4064 as well so that I can decide which one to get dope for. I think Varget is the better choice either way, so that's the one I went with first, but I always like to have choices.

Go with Varget. I tried IMR 4064 and found that it shot very poor out of my rifle. My advice is save your time and just stick with Varget.

Larry

EBR Works · Post by **EBR Works** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:00 am

I'll be there to shoot. I did the "A" clinic last year. Now I have a more appropriate rifle.

Looking forward to Brad's BBQ!

Lornev · Post by **Lornev** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:00 am

I'm in to shoot...

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nevertipsy · Post by **nevertipsy** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:11 am

Mudlol wrote:
Go with Varget. I tried IMR 4064 and found that it shot very poor out of my rifle. My advice is save your time and just stick with Varget.

Larry

^I agree with Larry, stick with Varget, this is also the advice many of the experienced shooters told me as well. I know its hard to find, but there is a reason why its hard to find!

Post by **Hollywood_Shooter** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:44 pm

EBR Works wrote:I'll be there to shoot. I did the "A" clinic last year. Now I have a more appropriate rifle.
Looking forward to Brad's BBQ!

Mike - Glad you're coming out! I hope you're bringing the 6.5cm with the can!

EBR Works · Post by **EBR Works** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:00 pm

Hollywood_Shooter wrote:
Mike - Glad you're coming out! I hope you're bringing the 6.5cm with the can!

That's the one!

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:31 pm

Mudlol wrote:
Go with Varget. I tried IMR 4064 and found that it shot very poor out of my rifle. My advice is save your time and just stick with Varget.

Larry

Agreed. On top of that if you're shooting factory 700 in 308 you don't have to do much load development. Go with 43.5gr Varget, 175smk loaded to 2.81 and you're ready to rock.

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Post by **AR15barrels** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:30 pm

3 more spots left.

albertg · Post by **albertg** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:37 pm

Too bad I wasn't able to attend clinic A, otherwise I'd attend this one.

Also, I keep reading people using 43.x gr of varget or 4064 for 175 smk. What brass are we talking about here? I am new to this, but with PPU brass, I was having pressure signs even at 41.5 4064, br2, 2.81 coal out of a factory 700. And where do you get your varget? I have a hard time finding it.

GEEKMEDIC · Post by **GEEKMEDIC** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:41 pm

My sweet spot seems to be @ 44.3gr of Varget. No signs of pressure at all. I am loading 175gr SMK's. I am still working on seating depth. 2.865 is .0010 off the lands. I have 10 loaded at 2.860, 2.865, and 2.870 to see what groups the best.

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:57 pm

albertg wrote:Too bad I wasn't able to attend clinic A, otherwise I'd attend this one.

Also, I keep reading people using 43.x gr of varget or 4064 for 175 smk. What brass are we talking about here? I am new to this, but with PPU brass, I was having pressure signs even at 41.5 4064, br2, 2.81 coal out of a factory 700. And where do you get your varget? I have a hard time finding it.

Take the Lapua brass that Bruce is selling.

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albertg · Post by **albertg** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:07 am

I just got some Lapua brass and am hoping to find some varget soon so I'll work up a load. What primers and brass are most of you using?

postal · Post by **postal** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:31 pm

I used black hills (winchester) brass with no issues.. Usually CCI or win primers. I was in the high 42. grains varget.

Post by **Hollywood_Shooter** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:00 pm

Win Brass, CCI LR Primers, 175 SMK, 44.5g Varget with no pressure signs. Recently did a test @ 44.8 and still no significant pressure issues

Post by **Hollywood_Shooter** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:18 am

For those still looking for VARGET, there is a guy on CALGUNS that just listed (15) 1# jugs of Varget @ $35/pound -or- $33/pound if you buy 5. Not the best price, but it will get you started if you're in need for the Clinic.

Link:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/show ... ght=varget

ETA: His location is listed as the San Fernando Valley

mintis · Post by **mintis** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:14 am

write "mintis" on that list

speedjunkie · Post by **speedjunkie** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:03 pm

Something came up last minute and I don't think I'll be able to make it to this Clinic B. Hopefully you guys will be able to have another one in the near future. Wish I could make it. Please free up my spot for anyone else that wants to attend...