9/22/13 CAPRC Match

Post by **AR15barrels** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:46 pm

The California Precision Rifle Club is proud to announce their next centerfire match will be Sunday September 22nd at the Angeles Ranges.
For details about the Angeles Ranges, see their website: http://www.angelesranges.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Signups start at 7:00am and shooting should start at 8:15am when the line goes hot.
Please arrive at the left side of the Angeles rifle range no later than 7:30am to sign-in and get assigned your shooter numbers.
Your shooters number is also your position on the line so please lineup accordingly.

Match fee is $20 for Caprc members or $30 for non members.
The match fee also includes use of the range after the match is completed.
We usually finish by 1pm.
Bring 70 rounds of match grade ammo.
Be prepared to shoot as close as 10yds and as far as 600yds.
Be prepared to shoot from standing, kneeling, seated, prone and other improvised postions.
Bring a backpack to shoot off of for stages that don't allow a bipod.

This match is open to bolt action and semi-auto rifles from 223 up through 308.
A velocity limit of 3100 fps will be in effect to reduce damage to club-owned steel targets.
Bipods, slings, shooting mats and rear bags are allowed and recommended.
Chamber flags are mandatory and are available from the club if needed.

Line helper RSVP's will be accepted anytime.
Member RSVP's will be accepted anytime.
Non-member RSVP's will be accepted after 12noon Monday 9/16.

Please RSVP by posting "I am in" or "I will be there" as we will ignore "maybe" or "if" RSVP's.
If you RSVP and later figure out that you can't come, please post that as well so we can keep the RSVP list current.

The following people have RSVP'd:
Range Officers:
AR15barrels
Snappy

Spotters / Range Hands:
Gnzrme

Shooters:
Tackman11
evo
Downrange67
postal
deepsix++
khw9mm
buffybuster
Stoopy
Treadstone
johnlee
gau17
skunkdevo
thegiff

Tackman11 · Post by **Tackman11** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:09 pm

In to shoot

evo · Post by **evo** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:00 pm

In to shoot

Post by **autoessentials** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:30 pm

I would love to go, but I am going to be at the Gap grind that weekend.

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:37 pm

In to shoot!

postal · Post by **postal** » Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:14 pm

Probably bro and I- gotta check

Post by **oni** » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:08 pm

Wife is due the day before .. might make it hard to come to the match.

GforceJunkie · Post by **GforceJunkie** » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:23 pm

I'll be out of town, have fun.

shawscar17 · Post by **shawscar17** » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:39 pm

I don't have my rifle, I do have a three week old but maybe I can get a pass from the wife to help out. I will let you guys know.
Best Regards,
Oscar

deepsix++ · Post by **deepsix++** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:33 am

i will be coming to the match

MisterMiles · Post by **MisterMiles** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:06 pm

In to shoot.

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:06 pm

In to shoot.

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:08 pm

autoessentials wrote:I would love to go, but I am going to be at the Gap grind that weekend.

Good luck and take some videos!

buffybuster · Post by **buffybuster** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:41 pm

In to shoot.

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:18 pm

In to shoot.

Post by **Treadstone** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:23 pm

In to shoot!

johnlee · Post by **johnlee** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:54 am

In to shoot.

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:59 am

johnlee wrote:In to shoot.

You shooting it with your savage?

johnlee · Post by **johnlee** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:14 am

My Savage isn't even zeroed yet. I'll be bringing Darth.

I'll also bring the Fortner for you to try out. But be forewarned. After you try the Fortner, you'll be spoiled. The accuracy and trigger action are superb of course, but the economy of motion in cycling is incredible:

Your hand will pivot to cycle the bolt, but your hand will pivot on a stationary middle finger. At first it might feel weird and you'll wonder what the big deal is. But fire a box and get used to the Fortner's action and then go back to a turnbolt and the turnbolt will feel crude.

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:51 pm

In to shoot

skunkdevo · Post by **skunkdevo** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:15 pm

In to shoot.

Teletiger7 · Post by **Teletiger7** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:42 pm

gau17 wrote:In to shoot

When I first saw this I almost thought you were teaching or kid to shoot on a 7.62x54R!!!

Teletiger7 · Post by **Teletiger7** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:50 pm

johnlee wrote:My Savage isn't even zeroed yet. I'll be bringing Darth.

I'll also bring the Fortner for you to try out. But be forewarned. After you try the Fortner, you'll be spoiled. The accuracy and trigger action are superb of course, but the economy of motion in cycling is incredible:

Your hand will pivot to cycle the bolt, but your hand will pivot on a stationary middle finger. At first it might feel weird and you'll wonder what the big deal is. But fire a box and get used to the Fortner's action and then go back to a turnbolt and the turnbolt will feel crude.

Wonder why you don't have a Sig Blaser?

Post by **AR15barrels** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:02 pm

Brad and I finished the course of fire.
Bring 70 rounds.

Post by **Gnzrme** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:53 pm

I most likely will be there to help

johnlee · Post by **johnlee** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:00 pm

Teletiger7 wrote:Wonder why you don't have a Sig Blaser?

I wouldn't mind having a Blaser. It's a neat gun. I've been tempted in the past but never bought one.

I don't doubt that the Blaser might be faster than a conventional turnbolt, but it still requires a regrip to cycle the action. Unless there's some top secret ninja technique that I haven't seen yet, the hand comes completely off the stock, grasps the knob, cycles the action back and forward, and then regrips the stock and trigger.

This isn't true with the Fortner, where the hand loosens and pivots on the middle finger but largely stays on the stock. The trigger finger pulls the bolt knob rearward and the thumb pushes the bolt shut. The trigger finger goes back on the trigger as the thumb shuts the bolt. Contrast that with something like a T-bolt, where the hand would come off the stock, grab the knob, cycle the action back and forward, and then regrip the stock and trigger.

For centerfires where the bolt throw is necessarily longer and something like a Fortner wouldn't work well, I think I prefer the hand action of the Tubb 2000 to that of Blaser. On the Tubb 2000, the hand loosens and comes off the grip, but the hand largely pivots on the thumb and the action is cycled open, back, forward, and shut with the trigger finger:

The entire hand except the trigger finger regrips as the trigger finger pushes the bolt forward and down. This is a very fluid movement and seems to me more ergonomic and faster than the action on a Blaser.

johnlee · Post by **johnlee** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:06 pm

Gnzrme wrote:I most likely will be there to help

Shit. I wish my beater Savage were ready to loan out.

Sorry.

Post by **Gnzrme** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:33 pm

Yeah, but you have to be the first to shoot it in a match

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:51 pm

Gnzrme wrote:Yeah, but you have to be the first to win with it in a match

FIFY

MisterMiles · Post by **MisterMiles** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:30 pm

Shit. Some bullshit just came up. I'm gonna have to skip this match.

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:06 pm

johnlee wrote:
Shit. I wish my beater Savage were ready to loan out.

Sorry.

John,

I would love to shoot that thing at one of our matches.

johnlee · Post by **johnlee** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:33 pm

Of course you can shoot it. It's just as well that the bolt will be on the wrong side for you, because you'll notice less difference between your really nice rifle and the beater Savage that way.

I gotta get that Savage running.

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:45 pm

I'll shoot it right handed :-)

Post by **thegiff** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:52 pm

In to shoot! Bro too I'm sure.

evo · Post by **evo** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:30 pm

Sorry guys, looks like I'm out. I'll see if I can make it toward the end to help if I can.

Tackman11 · Post by **Tackman11** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:51 pm

As usual. Great match thanks to Randal, Brad and Steven

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:54 pm

Thanks Randall and Brad for running the match and to Steven for helping out on the line!

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johnlee · Post by **johnlee** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:31 pm

Thanks to Randall, Brad, and Steven for the match. Darth and I fucking ate shit, but it was still fun.

Scores:

Congratulations to the Top Guns.

I think the scores prove once again that 6.5 Creedmoor is the hotness.

Tackman11 · Post by **Tackman11** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:34 pm

Look at that. 3 tops Asian. Lol

Short Action Precision · Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:03 pm

Tackman11 wrote:Look at that. 3 tops Asian. Lol

Was there math involved?!?!

buffybuster · Post by **buffybuster** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:48 pm

I zeroed the "Can't Miss" stage........ :lol:

Fun match, lunch was even better. Thanks Randall, Brad and Steven.

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:58 pm

Learned another thing today, gun ears eyes ammo. Really hard shooting a match missing any of these. Thanks John for letting me shoot the fortner, that gun is bad ass.

Post by **Gnzrme** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:08 pm

Stoopy wrote:Learned another thing today, gun ears eyes ammo. Really hard shooting a match missing any of these. Thanks John for letting me shoot the fortner, that gun is bad ass.

Yeah that thing is nice... Would be sweet if you could get a scope on it ..

Post by **Gnzrme** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:09 pm

buffybuster wrote:I zeroed the "Can't Miss" stage........

Fun match, lunch was even better. Thanks Randall, Brad and Steven.

Glad I could keep you entertained. I however was not laughing....

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:19 pm

Tackman11 wrote:Look at that. 3 tops Asian. Lol

Did I get back in the Asian category?

Thanks Randall, Brad, Steven, and Reece for making it happen. It's always fun seeing everyone.

Go Creedmoor Team.

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:28 pm

What are the times for the Appleseed stages?

Post by **Treadstone** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:46 pm

Stoopy wrote:What are the times for the Appleseed stages?

If I remember right:

Stage 1, standing. 10 rounds. 60 seconds.
Stage 2, standing transition to sitting, 2 mags with 2 and 8 rounds; 55 secs
Stage 3, standing transition to prone, 2 mags with 2 and 8 rounds; 60 seconds
Stage 4, prone, 1 mag with 10 rounds; 5 minutes; 2x points

Stage 2 is by far the hardest. A good trick: fire the first round and immediately swap out the mag to save having to rack the 3rd round.

Post by **AR15barrels** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:46 pm

Stoopy wrote:Learned another thing today, gun ears eyes ammo. Really hard shooting a match missing any of these.

As I am walking out the door to any shooting event, I run this checklist through my head:

Gun
Ammo
Mags
Holster(s)/Belt
Eyes
Ears

For multigun matches, go over that list for EACH gun.
Some guns might not have holsters, but I also include slings, mag pouches or shotshell holders as holsters...

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:08 pm

As always, great match!!! Thanks guys.

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:33 pm

khw9mm wrote:Thanks Randall and Brad for running the match and to Steven for helping out on the line!

And thanks to everyone who decided to take their 3rd shot on the 300yd KYL stage!!