CAPRC rimfire match 9-8-13

Post by **AR15barrels** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:29 pm

The California Precision Rifle Club is proud to announce that our next Tactical Precision Rimfire match will be Sunday September 8th at the Angeles Ranges.
For details about the Angeles Ranges, see their website: http://www.angelesranges.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Signups start at 8:30am and shooting should start at 9am.
This month we will be shooting on the private "Fort Angeles" range. From the main parking lot, take the road on the left, go past the Gun/Reloading store, it is the first range on the right side of the road. Park in the dirt on the side of the road, or in the main parking lot and walk in.
Please arrive no later than 8:30am to complete your waivers, sign-in and get assigned your shooter numbers. Your shooters number is also your position on the line so please lineup accordingly. Please note that we will be in the sun all match (no overhead cover) unless people can coordinate to bring shade covers, bring fluids to drink and sunscreen, it probably will be a hot one. Also, the entire range is dirt, be sure to bring a shooting mat, moving blanket, or other ground cover if you don't want to lay in the dirt all day.

Match fee is $20 for Caprc members or $30 for non members.
We will finish by 1-2pm but we have the range for the day so a BBQ and practice session is also possible.
Bring 100 rounds of ammo minimum, suggest 150-200 rounds as you will have time to confirm your zero.
Be prepared to shoot as close as 10yds and as far as 100yds.
Be prepared to shoot from standing, kneeling, seated, prone and other improvised positions.

This match is open to bolt action and semi-auto rimfire rifles in .22 lr caliber only.
No Hyper velocity ammo, match grade target ammo recommended.
Bipods, slings, shooting mats and rear bags are allowed and recommended.
Chamber flags are mandatory and are available from the club if needed. Observers are welcome!
Line helpers are always needed! If you are planning on attending to just watch and not shoot, please volunteer to be a line helper. Duties may include: Helping stapling and placing targets, keeping score, and spotting. Its a great way to get up and close to the action and see whats its all about.

Line helper RSVP's will be accepted anytime.
CaPRC Member RSVP's will be accepted anytime.
Non-Member RSVP's will be accepted after 6pm on Sunday September 1st.

Please RSVP by posting something very definite in this thread such as "I am in to shoot" or "I will be there" as we will ignore "maybe" or "if" RSVP's.
If you RSVP and later figure out that you can't come, please post that as well so we can keep the RSVP list current.
Please RSVP as soon as possible so we can ensure we print out enough targets.
Walk-ons will be accommodated if we have enough targets.

The following people have RSVP'd:

Range Officers/Line Helpers:
AR15barrels
GforceJunkie
Oni

Shooters:
AR15barrels
GforceJunkie
johnlee
khw9mm
evo
6079Winston
Nosmas
defcon
ReligiousShooter

johnlee · Post by **johnlee** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:34 pm

I'm in.

Tackman11 · Post by **Tackman11** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:49 pm

Sold my savage so I'm out[WEARY FACE]

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:24 pm

Tackman11 wrote:Sold my savage so I'm out[WEARY FACE]

I have my 10/22 you can use if you want. I'm going with a Savage.

evo · Post by **evo** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:31 pm

I'm in, time to see if the Kidd can stay in the picture

Fjold · Post by **Fjold** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:04 pm

I'd love to shoot it but I leave for Africa on the 10th so I just don't have the time.

shawscar17 · Post by **shawscar17** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:07 pm

I wish I could go. My wife is due on the 9/14, I have to be around just in case my boy comes early. Hopefully next match I will make it out.

6079Winston · Post by **6079Winston** » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:21 pm

In to shoot.

Post by **Gnzrme** » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:30 pm

I sadly have to work, so I am out unless I can get a trade....

glenn_ma · Post by **glenn_ma** » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:08 pm

I want to buy a .22 LR now.

Nosmas · Post by **Nosmas** » Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:56 pm

In to shoot.

I'm very excited. this will be my first match.

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:15 pm

Nosmas wrote:In to shoot.

I'm very excited. this will be my first match.

Just don't do what I did at my first match. I ended up getting second and haven't been able to repeat the success, very frustrating.

Post by **AR15barrels** » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:05 pm

Mike and I finished the course of fire.
11 stages.
Up to 111 rounds fired.
Pistol side match with a $1 buy-in per attempt, winner take all.

Please bring portable shade structures if you have them.

Post by **AR15barrels** » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:07 pm

glenn_ma wrote:I want to buy a .22 LR now.

Take Kevin up on his offer to shoot his 10-22...

CamW · Post by **CamW** » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:51 am

.22 pistol or center fire pistol?

Post by **AR15barrels** » Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:26 pm

CamW wrote:.22 pistol or center fire pistol?

It will be a rimfire pistol.
Everyone will shoot it with the same pistol.

GforceJunkie · Post by **GforceJunkie** » Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:39 pm

AR15barrels wrote:
It will be a rimfire pistol.
Everyone will shoot it with the same pistol.

It sure would liven it up if we made them use my 1 1/8" NAA revolver...

Timberwolf · Post by **Timberwolf** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:52 pm

In to shoot and/or help with the line. Need to mount a scope on the Savage and a bipod. Will I have time prior to the match to get a zero?

GforceJunkie · Post by **GforceJunkie** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:01 pm

Timberwolf wrote:Will I have time prior to the match to get a zero?

Yes.

defcon · Post by **defcon** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:50 am

I'm interested but also intimidated as I've never shot at 100 yards for groupings. Only shot at 50 yards once.

I'm still brand new to precision shooting and definitely would like to get better.

I only have cheap $40 Bushnell Banner 3x9-50 scopes where I use a screw driver to dial in.

I was at Angeles yesterday for Labor Day practicing at 25 yard targets using Remington Golden Bullets

Action/barrels are all factory. I don't have any performance mods

Using 3x9-50mm

Zoomed in at 3x

Barrett M82 Ruger 10/22

IMAG0661 by defconskylude, on Flickr

IMAG0660 by defconskylude, on Flickr

M200 Intervention Marlin XT-22

IMAG0658 by defconskylude, on Flickr

IMAG0657 by defconskylude, on Flickr

Remington MSR Savage MKII F

IMAG0656 by defconskylude, on Flickr

IMAG0655 by defconskylude, on Flickr

defcon · Post by **defcon** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:57 am

I AM IN TO SHOOT! Just have to tell the wife.

I'll be shooting with M200 Cheytac Marlin XT-22

I have 11 .22LR rimfires to choose from. These are all .22 conversions except for the Saiga 12

Post by **Gnzrme** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:36 am

Lol....

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:39 am

Gnzrme wrote:Lol....

Don't laugh Steven.... he'll probably still beat you

Short Action Precision · Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:03 am

DirtRacer151 wrote:
Don't laugh Steven.... he'll probably still beat you

Ouch!!

johnlee · Post by **johnlee** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:48 pm

Randall and Mike,

Do you think you guys will shoot the match as well as run it? The turn-out should be small and I think we have enough line helpers that both of you can shoot if you want.

Post by **Gnzrme** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:21 pm

Go back to work James....

defcon · Post by **defcon** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:25 pm

anyone willing to sell me some match ammo?

id order online but i dont want to rely on shipping to make it on time

all i have are bulk ammo Winchester 555, Winchester M-22, CCI Mini Mag, Remington Golden Bullets/Thunderbolts

Post by **AR15barrels** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:38 pm

johnlee wrote:Randall and Mike,

Do you think you guys will shoot the match as well as run it? The turn-out should be small and I think we have enough line helpers that both of you can shoot if you want.

I want to try shooting if I can, but I'm helping more and shooting less.
Mike is shooting more and helping less.

evo · Post by **evo** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:32 pm

Al, I'll trade you some Wolf match for mini-mags.

Post by **Gnzrme** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:27 pm

I am trying to arrange a trade so I can be there... not sure yet

defcon · Post by **defcon** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:57 pm

evo wrote:Al, I'll trade you some Wolf match for mini-mags.

how many wolf match for mini mags?

defcon · Post by **defcon** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:57 pm

i have some guy selling me some Federal Auto Match 325 for $35

would this be good for the match?

also im definitely going. got the OK from the wife.

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:03 pm

Auto match sucks in my testing...

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:06 pm

defcon wrote:i have some guy selling me some Federal Auto Match 325 for $35

would this be good for the match?

also im definitely going. got the OK from the wife.

With .22's it depends on what the gun likes. You should go out and shoot 50 of each type of ammo you have and see what the gun likes. Most .22's shoot wolf match pretty well so that's what most guys settle on. You just need to try it. Just go to the match, have fun, and learn as much as you can.

Post by **oni** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:39 pm

Ill be there to help.
Can't think of a better way to spend my birthday then with friends at the range.

johnlee · Post by **johnlee** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:56 pm

oni wrote:Ill be there to help.
Can't think of a better way to spend my birthday then with friends at the range.

Why don't you shoot the match?

GforceJunkie · Post by **GforceJunkie** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:34 pm

I got a spare rifle someone can shoot

Short Action Precision · Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:38 pm

oni wrote:Ill be there to help.
Can't think of a better way to spend my birthday then with friends at the range.

If you need a rifle swing by my pad!

Post by **oni** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:35 pm

I don't have a 22 and thanks for the offer to borrow a rifle.

I will help this match. I haven't been around much and I want to give the guys that are always RO's some range time.

Nathan. I have something for you so Ill try and swing by sometime this week.

johnlee · Post by **johnlee** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:55 pm

Damn, you guys without a .22, score yourselves a .22. These things are cheap. They're cheap to shoot. They're fun. They're great practice. A .22 rifle is the best gun ever made.

This Savage is around $250:

http://www.riflegear.com/p-1935-savage- ... arrel.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This Super Sniper is $400:

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-10x42M-Tactical ... 53713.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That scope focuses down to 11 yards. You can even shoot that thing at an indoor range without blur or parallax. You don't even have to pay for targets. Just get a scrap target out of the trash can, shoot a hole in it, and then shoot for the hole.

Add a hundred for a bipod. Get some cheapie rings. Add a comb. Score some spare mags. Score a loop sling. Even with all of that, you're at about a grand for a really nice rifle that costs about as much as rebarreling your 6mm Whizbang one time. And you can shoot this .22 thousands and thousands of times and never have to rebarrel.

If you already have a decent scope on your centerfire but want to upgrade to a nicer scope, toss your existing scope on the .22. It's a great excuse to score that bitchin new latest greatest super duper scope for your centerfire. It's totally guilt-free. In fact, tell yourself you're actually saving money by doing this. It may be bullshit, but it works. Or, put some of your junk for sale on the classifieds or on eBay to bankroll the new rifle. This rifle is cheap enough that it doesn't take a lot of sales to add up to a grand. Or, what about that that lonely gun that always sits in the corner of your safe and gets no love? Everyone has these pieces of shit lying around. Sell that and score a .22 rifle without going out of pocket.

Post by **oni** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:01 am

John ... chill

defcon · Post by **defcon** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:09 am

whats a good scope with turrets under $100?

Short Action Precision · Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:17 am

defcon wrote:whats a good scope with turrets under $100?

No Scope!

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:25 am

"Good scope" and "under $100" doesn't exist.

At the minimum, I'd look into this: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/950843 ... icle-matte" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

defcon · Post by **defcon** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:29 am

khw9mm wrote:"Good scope" and "under $100" doesn't exist.

At the minimum, I'd look into this: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/950843 ... icle-matte" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

thanks. ill see if i can find a used one

Post by **AR15barrels** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:33 am

khw9mm wrote:"Good scope" and "under $100" doesn't exist.

At the minimum, I'd look into this: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/950843 ... icle-matte" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's actually not a good 22 scope because it is not parallax adjustable.

johnlee · Post by **johnlee** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:34 am

That Bushnell's focus and parallax are fixed at 100 yards. It seems like you do all of your shooting at 25 yards.

If you want to make that Bushnell work, you can undo the lock ring and turn out the objective to focus the scope at 25 yards. This seems to freak out people, but it isn't a big deal. I've done this to several of my scopes.

defcon · Post by **defcon** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:44 am

johnlee wrote:That Bushnell's focus and parallax are fixed at 100 yards. It seems like you do all of your shooting at 25 yards.

If you want to make that Bushnell work, you can undo the lock ring and turn out the objective to focus the scope at 25 yards. This seems to freak out people, but it isn't a big deal. I've done this to several of my scopes.

I started at 25 yds just to get a feel for it. I'll be going out to 50, 100, 200. Just not sure I can do it with the cheap Bushnell Banner Dusk/Dawn 3x9-50 scope that I have now.

johnlee · Post by **johnlee** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:02 am

In that video you posted of your Cheytac, it looks as though the scope has an adjustable objective. It seems to me that scope would be more usable with .22LR than the $200 Bushnell.

In many ways, a rimfire scope is more demanding than a centerfire scope. You need gobs of elevation if you're going to shoot at longer ranges. You need adjustable parallax to shoot at rimfire ranges from 10 to 200 yards. You're turning the knobs so often that tracking is important.

Something like this at $300 might work for you:

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-12x42-Tactical- ... 53714.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's also available in 10x if you prefer.

Teletiger7 · Post by **Teletiger7** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:27 am

Falcon menace has adjustable parallax