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Ever thought about doing one specializing in long range shooting and hunting?
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Just read up and start with the basics!
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racerngr1 wrote:Ever thought about doing one specializing in long range shooting and hunting?

Simplest reloading is reloading straight wall pistol cartridges. Using a carbide sizing die, there's no lube to deal with and they are very tolerant of variances in charge (within reason) and OAL. It's the best place to start.

Then reloading simple rifle cartridges, just for blasting for hunting. You do need to lube cases but otherwise nothing special.

To loading precision cartridges, opens another world of variable control limited only by your time, money and imagination........

If you can learn over someone's shoulder or better yet having someone look over your shoulder, that's best.
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Trial and error then read to find out why and how to fix if you can't figure it out on your own.
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Stoopy wrote:Trial and error then read to find out why and how to fix if you can't figure it out on your own.
Same here, but still feels like i'm doing it pretty blindly.
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Stoopy wrote:Trial and error then read to find out why and how to fix if you can't figure it out on your own.
Keep in mind you are dealing with pressure in excess of 50,000 pounds per square inch, inches from your face & hands. I'm sorry but "Trial and Error" is NOT the way to approach reloading. An error in reloading can have catastrophic consequences. Akin to DIY bomb making.....Granted most errors are inconvenient but it only takes one to ruin your day and maybe your life..... or worse someone else's. That's not the way you want to learn.
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buffybuster wrote:
Keep in mind you are dealing with pressure in excess of 50,000 pounds per square inch, inches from your face & hands. I'm sorry but "Trial and Error" is NOT the way to approach reloading. An error in reloading can have catastrophic consequences. Akin to DIY bomb making.....Granted most errors are inconvenient but it only takes one to ruin your day and maybe your life..... or worse someone else's. That's not the way you want to learn.
I should of explained further. Trial and error in case prep. Always use a manual for the amount of powder and always work your way up to maximum. I think most people have a hard time with case prep and full length sizing. Trial and error with case lubes, to much lube, not enough, pushing back the shoulder, types of tools, processes to speed up reloading. Anyone that starts to reload should know not to guess with powder. Also remember OAL can effect case pressure. Sorry if it came off as telling someone to just guess at it. It is the small things that you can't learn from a manual that are the trial and error things like how much you deburr the case edge or how long you hold the neck of the brass in the flame when annealing.
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I was thinking it could be structured like an A,B,C class like shooting. I would be interested in taking my reloading to the next level, I think I've got great hunting ammo but not sure if it would perform to 800+ yards.

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racerngr1 wrote:I was thinking it could be structured like an A,B,C class like shooting. I would be interested in taking my reloading to the next level, I think I've got great hunting ammo but not sure if it would perform to 800+ yards.

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I have an ABCs of reloading book you can borrow if you want.
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Dude check out the ammosmith video's on youtube & his forum(ammosmith.com). They're pretty detailed & he covers alot of stuff.
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For new brass prep, I follow this procedure:
Visual Inspection for obvious defects and cull out damaged brass
Very lightly lube the case-I use an RCBS lube pad
Very lightly lube inside the case neck-I use a brush
Full length size (I use minimum SAMI length for new brass)
turn the necks-I use an RCBS trim lathe dedicated for neck turning
Trim to length-I use an RCBS power trimmer
Camphor and debur the case mouth-I use an RCBS case prep center
debur flash hole-I use an RCBS tool attached to the RCBS case prep center
square primer pocket
tumble the brass to clean and polish
clear media from case and flash hole
weigh and sort in lots of 50 within 1 grain

For subsequent reloads, I follow this procedure:
Visual Inspection for obvious defects and cull out damaged brass
Very lightly lube the case-I use an RCBS lube pad
Very lightly lube inside the case neck-I use a brush
Full length size to bump the shoulder .001-I use a RCBS Precision Mic to check fireform size, then set the die accordingly
Trim to length
Camphor and debur the case mouth
anneal the case neck (every third reload)
tumble to clean and polish
clear media from case and flash hole

To load, I follow this procedure:
Prime by hand to ensure proper seating of the primer in the pocket
Charge the case with the proper weight of powder-I use an RCBS chargemaster
Seat my bullet, I use RCBS Comp dies
check OAL with dial caliper
Randomly check concentricity of neck and bullet run out

Working up a load .... and seating depths are another subject ...

Good luck
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Khsiebert wrote:For new brass prep, I follow this procedure:
Visual Inspection for obvious defects and cull out damaged brass
Very lightly lube the case-I use an RCBS lube pad
Very lightly lube inside the case neck-I use a brush
Full length size (I use minimum SAMI length for new brass)
turn the necks-I use an RCBS trim lathe dedicated for neck turning
Trim to length-I use an RCBS power trimmer
Camphor and debur the case mouth-I use an RCBS case prep center
debur flash hole-I use an RCBS tool attached to the RCBS case prep center
square primer pocket
tumble the brass to clean and polish
clear media from case and flash hole
weigh and sort in lots of 50 within 1 grain

For subsequent reloads, I follow this procedure:
Visual Inspection for obvious defects and cull out damaged brass
Very lightly lube the case-I use an RCBS lube pad
Very lightly lube inside the case neck-I use a brush
Full length size to bump the shoulder .001-I use a RCBS Precision Mic to check fireform size, then set the die accordingly
Trim to length
Camphor and debur the case mouth
anneal the case neck (every third reload)
tumble to clean and polish
clear media from case and flash hole

To load, I follow this procedure:
Prime by hand to ensure proper seating of the primer in the pocket
Charge the case with the proper weight of powder-I use an RCBS chargemaster
Seat my bullet, I use RCBS Comp dies
check OAL with dial caliper
Randomly check concentricity of neck and bullet run out

Working up a load .... and seating depths are another subject ...

Good luck

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That was helpful. I hope that makes you feel good about yourself. Very mature.
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Khsiebert wrote:That was helpful. I hope that makes you feel good about yourself. Very mature.

If you're talking to me; English is my second language...... What's your excuse.

I wasn't being a dick, blame it on your English teacher...... It was obvious you didn't know what it meant, as you kept using it throughout your post.
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To stay on the subject you can go to a free reloading clinic at field time sports and guns in Westminster. It's where I learned how to reload. Just call and ask when the next one is. Bob will answer any questions you have. I saw him help out a guy that got a stuck case and wondered now how the hell did he do that (get the case stuck) a week later I was in there with the same problem use plenty of case lube.
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Thanks K_Labs.
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they do free reloading classes at fowlers off the 55 and chapman. thats where i got my confidence to start. i had been buying components and relaoding tools for a few months. they go step by step on a press showing you how to set up dies and which order to do things. they touch on advanced subjects in conversation.
like i said thats where i got my confidence. not alot of knowledge. just basics. then i learned further online, here and elsewhere.
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one book that was recomended to me at that relaoding class was "Applied Ballistics for Long Range Shooting" by bryan litz
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Angeles offers a beginner reloading class.
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I'd be in for a class on making match ammo. :)
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