CaPRC Marksmanship Clinic "B" 8-12-12

Post by **AR15barrels** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:38 pm

Come on out and join us at Angeles for the 2nd part of our new precision rifle shooter series of clinics on Sunday August 12th.
This shoot will have you gathering dope from a 100yd zero out to 600yds as well as work on spotting and calling shots and making corrections from calls.
We wil be continuing with using the features of the scope and how to make accurate soft dope from your hard dope using ballistics software.
You need to have attended (as a shooter) one of our former "A" clinics during 2011 or 2012 in order to attend this clinic as a shooter.
We will limit this to 24 shooters so that those shooters can get maximum range time.
Fees are $50 for non members or $40 for club members.
The entry fee covers the classroom sessions, cold drinks and BBQ lunch and your use of the range for the rest of the day after the clinic is over.
Plan on a full day as the schedule has us shooting until at least 3pm.
You may particpte as a non-shooter, observe the shooting portion of the day and join us for the BBQ for a reduced $20 non-shooter fee.

Tentative schedule as follows:
7:15 Sign-in
7:30 Classroom session on the firing line.
8:15 line goes hot. verify, correct and zero knobs at 100yds (5-10 rds)
10:00 open shooting time with instruction as needed
12:00 BBQ lunch break
1:00 open shooting time with instruction as needed

Some things to bring:
Precision rifle wearing a scope with target knobs, eye/ear protection, sunscreen, chamber flag, 80 rounds of match quality ammo, printout from a ballistics program showing your bullet drop in moa or mils as appropriate to your scope, shooting mat or blanket, bipod, some kind of rear bag or sand sock, small notepad and a pencil or pen to take notes.
Bring what you have, don't worry too much about what you don't have.
We always make do with what we have.

This is a Precision Rifle event so if the gun/scope/ammo is not capable of shooting 1moa groups, it will detract from your overall experience at the shoot.
Please have your rifle zeroed at 100yds and your knobs set to zero before you arrive on the day of the shoot.
We will verify a correct zero at the shoot, but it takes time that is better spent putting rounds on targets.

We are also looking for our experienced club members to show up and help instruct.
If you are able to help on the line, please RSVP anytime.

RSVP's for CaPRC club member shooters will be accepted after 12 noon on Wed 8/1/12.
RSVP's for non club member shooters will be accepted after 12 noon on Friday 8/3/12.
Any RSVP's posted before those times will be ignored or deleted.

The following people will work the line:
AR15barrels
autoessentials
Gnzrme?
Oni?
GforceJunkie?

The following people have acceptably RSVP'd as shooters:
shaib777
smogcity
Mobius38
Radiation Shooter
Black Majik
William
Mad minute
khw9mm
dedub
Gunman308

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:08 pm

I have never shot the a clinic but would like to attend this. I have shot a couple matches and feel I have a good grasp of the basics. Would I be able to attend this?

evo · Post by **evo** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:52 pm

I'm not sure if I fall into the "experienced" catagory just yet but I'm down to help/instruct as much as I can.

shaib777 · Post by **shaib777** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:52 pm

In to Shoot

Post by **smogcity** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:01 pm

In to shoot!

Post by **Mobius38** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:02 pm

Im in!

Radiation Shooter · Post by **Radiation Shooter** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:06 pm

Count me in.

Black Majik · Post by **Black Majik** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:02 am

In to shoot. thanks.

William · Post by **William** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:20 am

In to shoot.

Mad minute · Post by **Mad minute** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:15 pm

in to shoot.

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:17 pm

In to shoot. Thanks!

Beetle Bailey · Post by **Beetle Bailey** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:38 pm

In to shoot, thanks!

dedub · Post by **dedub** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:20 am

Please RSVP me a spot to shoot.

Post by **Gnzrme** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:13 pm

Randall, will try to get the day off, but I do not know... Will let you know...

Beetle Bailey · Post by **Beetle Bailey** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:08 pm

Beetle Bailey wrote:In to shoot, thanks!

Gotta apologize to the forum. I have a family thing to do that day so I won't be able to make the clinic anymore.

Post by **autoessentials** » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:42 am

I'll join in the party. Sounds like fun.

GforceJunkie · Post by **GforceJunkie** » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:42 pm

Going to try to be there to help, but work is crazy so I won't know if I'm available untill the weekend.

Gunman308 · Post by **Gunman308** » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:02 pm

I will be there

Post by **AR15barrels** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:08 pm

I'll be picking up BBQ supplies and printing targets out tomorrow for Sunday.
Looks like it should be a nice group with about 10 shooters and 5 line helpers.
See ya all on sunday.

GforceJunkie · Post by **GforceJunkie** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:28 pm

Its going to be a hot one. Bring gatorade and water to keep your self hydrated on the line.

evo · Post by **evo** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:19 pm

Sorry guys, not going to make it out to help this time, got some last minute work.

Post by **Mobius38** » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:08 pm

Looking forward to the early am drive from San Diego!

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:27 pm

Here are the targets for those that had to leave early

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:30 pm

And some more from today.

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:28 pm

Good times, thanks to Randall and crew for putting this together!

Mad minute · Post by **Mad minute** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:24 pm

my thanks to the club for doing this. i was really cool when keith helped square me away a little on my shooter app. then my hard dope confirmed my soft dope and it all kinda made sense.
learned alot today.

Gunman308 · Post by **Gunman308** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:35 pm

I learn a lot today, Thanks Randall and all the volunteer for holding this clinic, hope to see you guy next event.

dedub · Post by **dedub** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:51 pm

Thanks again for another excellent clinic. I learned a ton even though it was my second time through the "B" clinic. Now, when is the "C" clinic?

Post by **Mobius38** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:53 am

I was going over a few notes and got confused about something that was covered in the class. I am useing shooter for my Android phone. I was wondering in the ballistics software do we use Station Pressure or Barometric Pressure? If I use Sation pressure I can not enter an altitude and need to have the pressure is absolute marked. Is this correct?

Post by **AR15barrels** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:51 am

Mobius38 wrote:I was going over a few notes and got confused about something that was covered in the class. I am useing shooter for my Android phone. I was wondering in the ballistics software do we use Station Pressure or Barometric Pressure? If I use Sation pressure I can not enter an altitude and need to have the pressure is absolute marked. Is this correct?

You want to use station pressure.
When you use station pressure, you do NOT enter an altitude.
If entering an altitude is still an option, enter zero feet as the altitude.

Station pressure is an absolute pressure, so yes, the option "pressure is absolute" should be checked.

Post by **Mobius38** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:51 pm

Thanks for such a quick answer. Now to setup the Kestrel to show the station pressure not the barrametric pressure.

Post by **AR15barrels** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:29 pm

Mobius38 wrote:Thanks for such a quick answer. Now to setup the Kestrel to show the station pressure not the barrametric pressure.

Good info here:

http://www.nkhome.com/support/instructions/k3500.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Specifically, THIS:

ABOUT BAROMETRIC PRESSURE AND ALTITUDE ADJUSTMENTS

The Kestrel Meter measures "station" pressure-the actual air pressure in the measurement location-and uses this value to calculate barometric pressure and altitude. Station pressure changes in response to two things-changes in altitude and changes in the atmosphere. Because the Kestrel Meter is constantly changing location and altitude, it is important to enter adjustments or "references" when accurate pressure and altitude readings are needed.

Barometric pressure is station pressure corrected to sea level. In order to make the correction, the Kestrel Meter needs an accurate reference altitude. Altitude is the height above sea level. In order to correctly calculate altitude, the unit needs an accurate barometric pressure reference, also known as an "altimeter setting". Fortunately, you only need to know ONE of these values (current barometric pressure or current altitude) in order to set your Kestrel Meter up to show accurate readings.

All you need to do to get station pressure to read out is to set your reference altitude to zero feet.

shaib777 · Post by **shaib777** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:46 pm

I wish to thank Randall, Mike and every one that helped on
this last Clinc. It was a great inlightment for every one I'm sure.
I appreciate every thing this club has to offer and the knowledge
You guys share . Good job !

Post by **Mobius38** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:07 pm

...on a little side topic. What is a good model to look at when your looking at Kestrel's? Fair price? Looking to buy my first.

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:22 pm

Mobius38 wrote:...on a little side topic. What is a good model to look at when your looking at Kestrel's? Fair price? Looking to buy my first.

The 4000 or 4500. They are the ones that will give you the density altitude.

Post by **autoessentials** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:18 pm

I picked up the 4000NV in OD green. It seems like the popular model.

Thanks for taking some pics of the day Stoops!

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:27 pm

autoessentials wrote:I picked up the 4000NV in OD green. It seems like the popular model.

Thanks for taking some pics of the day Stoops!

I just got a 4500 on amazon, should be here monday. No prob on the picture taking. I figured some people would like to show their family what they were doing.

Post by **Mobius38** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:49 pm

Been looking at the 4500. What is a good price on those?

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:00 pm

I paid 309 for an OD green one. The yellow 4500 is 299 on amazon.

Post by **Mobius38** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:15 pm

Looking at at 4000NV for $250. Can not really see the difference between the 4000 and the 4500

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:24 pm

Mobius38 wrote:Looking at at 4000NV for $250. Can not really see the difference between the 4000 and the 4500

Check eBay. I just picked up a like-new 4000 for sub $200 including shipping...

shaib777 · Post by **shaib777** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:49 pm

I wish to thank Randall, Mike and every one that helped on
this last Clinc. It was a great inlightment for every one I'm sure.
I appreciate every thing this club has to offer and the knowledge
You guys share . Good job !