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9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:55 pm
by AR15barrels
The California Precision Rifle Club is proud to announce their next centerfire match will be Sunday September 13th at the Angeles Ranges.
For details about the Angeles Ranges, see their website: http://www.angelesranges.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Signups start at 7:30am and shooting should start at 8:15am when the line goes hot.
Please arrive at the left side of the Angeles rifle range no later than 7:45am to sign-in and get assigned your shooter numbers.
Your shooters number is also your position on the line so please lineup accordingly.

Match fee is $10 for Caprc members or $30 for non members.
The match fee also includes use of the range after the match is completed.
We usually finish by 1pm.
Bring 70 rounds of match grade ammo.
Be prepared to shoot as close as 10yds and as far as 600yds.
Be prepared to shoot from standing, kneeling, seated, prone and other improvised positions.
Bring a backpack to shoot off of for stages that don't allow a bipod.



This match is open to bolt action and semi-auto rifles from 223 up through 308.
A velocity limit of 3100 fps will be in effect to reduce damage to club-owned steel targets.
Bipods, slings, shooting mats and rear bags are allowed and recommended.
Chamber flags are mandatory and are available from the club if needed.

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Line helper RSVP's will be accepted anytime.
Member RSVP's will be accepted anytime.
Non-member RSVP's will be accepted anytime.


Please RSVP by posting "I am in" or "I will be there" as we will ignore "maybe" or "if" RSVP's.
If you RSVP and later figure out that you can't come, please post that as well so we can keep the RSVP list current.

The following people have RSVP'd:
Range Officers:
AR15barrels

Spotters / Range Hands:
gau17
Marc

Shooters:
Gnzrme
LoneWolf
Treadstone
Guardian Mode
Tomlee337
MichaelV
deepsix++
thegiff
Tackman11
albertg
Mobius38
autoessentials
Point of Impact
Downrange67
evo
peerless
khw9mm

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:59 pm
by Gnzrme
I AM OFF.....

IN LIKE FLYNN

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:35 pm
by LoneWolf
I'm in to shoot and help.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:40 pm
by Treadstone
Jennifer and I are in to shoot and help.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:04 pm
by Guardian Mode
I am in.

Hi, I'm Alex! I'm a new guy here!
My brother and I decided it's that time to jump in and just do this already. He'll chime in once he sees my post. Lol.
We were at Angeles today and I'm feeling good about my zero, so it's as good a time as any!

Question, do you limit to 5 rounds in a mag?
I once read that rule, but couldn't find it again.
Thanks.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:50 pm
by AR15barrels
Guardian Mode wrote:Question, do you limit to 5 rounds in a mag?
Sometimes.
It forces you to have to reload.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:10 am
by Tomlee337
I'm in.


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Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:03 am
by MichaelV
I'm in to shoot, help, complain, whatever.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:24 pm
by Luky
LoneWolf wrote:I'm in to shoot and help.
Hey Phil, I'm on here now. What time were you guys meeting to drive up to this match? I stuck a case in my .260 die but have enough brass prepped to load for this match.

Luky

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:31 pm
by LoneWolf
Usually between 0530 and 0545. PM me for the meeting spot.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:02 pm
by schills
All,

Thinking about joining for this match, and if not this one, then definitely future matches. Is 6.5 Creedmoor allowed?

Also, any rimfire matches planned for the future or have those been permanently cancelled?

Cheers,

schills

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:07 pm
by LoneWolf
6.5 Creedmoor is perfect. Stop thinking and come on out. Either way you'll wish you had sooner.

Not sure about rimfire matches though.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:50 am
by deepsix++
in to shoot

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:56 am
by Tomlee337
Do I need a chamber flag for Sunday?


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Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:57 am
by Guardian Mode
Yeah come on out!
It'll be my first match. Same with my friend shooting 308.
I'll be shooting 6.5 Grendel. Only shot that gun a couple times. I figure, it shoots straight...good a time as any.

I have a question about the tactical pillows.
Is there a rule regarding the size or quantity of bags/pillows?
Can I stuff my wardrobe into a backpack and use that as a "rear bag"?

I saw a pic of a guy sitting on his butt with a long legged bipod off his feet.
Is that sort of stuff legal?
Thanks

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:03 am
by Gnzrme
Some stages restrict the usage of extra items like shooting sticks, pillows and rear bags... other stages do not.. So I would say bring it and the match director will let you k n ow what stages you can and cannot use it.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:17 pm
by Tackman11
[quote="Tomlee337"]Do I need a chamber flag for Sunday?


Yes, you do. If you don't I'm pretty sure other will have an extra you can borrow. Just come out and have fun

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:52 pm
by Tomlee337
Sounds good tackman11.... I already rsvp'd so I'm good to go!


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Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:11 am
by thegiff
In to shoot and help out.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:30 am
by Tackman11
In to shoot and help

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:00 am
by albertg
Guardian Mode wrote:I am in.

Hi, I'm Alex! I'm a new guy here!
My brother and I decided it's that time to jump in and just do this already. He'll chime in once he sees my post. Lol.
We were at Angeles today and I'm feeling good about my zero, so it's as good a time as any!

Question, do you limit to 5 rounds in a mag?
I once read that rule, but couldn't find it again.
Thanks.
Yes, I am in as well. I bought a bolt rifle a year ago to get into match shooting with my brother and friend and for some reason it has taken this long to jump in. So including me, that's 3 fngs doing their first match. Hopefully we won't need too much hand holding.

Btw, I'm looking for the COF's from the most recent months. I didn't see them here: http://www.caprc.com/targets/

Also is the 3100fps still the limit? I tend to see some others posting numbers around 3150.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:18 pm
by Mobius38
Im in!

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:53 pm
by Gnzrme
albertg wrote:
Yes, I am in as well. I bought a bolt rifle a year ago to get into match shooting with my brother and friend and for some reason it has taken this long to jump in. So including me, that's 3 fngs doing their first match. Hopefully we won't need too much hand holding.

Btw, I'm looking for the COF's from the most recent months. I didn't see them here: http://www.caprc.com/targets/

Also is the 3100fps still the limit? I tend to see some others posting numbers around 3150.
You shooting a 6mm? If so, yes keep them below 3150... preferably below 3100

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:36 pm
by albertg
Gnzrme wrote: You shooting a 6mm? If so, yes keep them below 3150... preferably below 3100
Yes, 6 creedmoor. Ok, thanks.

Also, will I have an opportunity to re-zero after the first stage, assuming its a cold bore stage?

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:42 am
by autoessentials
3150 fps and below is fine.
Typically there is no zero time at a match. If you get a stage at 100y paper that is about as close as you get.

In to shoot

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:40 pm
by Point of Impact
In to shoot.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:45 pm
by Downrange67
I'm in. Might shoot .308

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:06 pm
by evo
In to shoot/help

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:40 am
by Treadstone
By chance could someone bring a concentricity gauge to the match? I'd like to know how much runout my .308 and 6mm reloads have.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:50 am
by evo
Sure

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:43 am
by gau17
Honestly Jeff, how do your rounds look on paper? If they are good don't worry about it. You will just mind fuck yourself by using a concentric gauge. If it ain't broke don't go looking for stuff to fix.

If they look like crap, then by all means use it.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:31 am
by buffybuster
gau17 wrote:Honestly Jeff, how do your rounds look on paper? If they are good don't worry about it. You will just mind fuck yourself by using a concentric gauge. If it ain't broke don't go looking for stuff to fix.

If they look like crap, then by all means use it.
Solo,
Can I quote you and put this into my tagline?...................

Jeff,
In all honesty can you consistently shoot to the mechanical ability of your rifle system? If that answer is: Yes, then you might benefit from chasing the minutiae.
However for the other 99%, our efforts might better be served: practicing wind reading, positional, and building a solid repeatable prone position.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:00 pm
by gau17
buffybuster wrote: Solo,
Can I quote you and put this into my tagline?...................

Jeff,
In all honesty can you consistently shoot to the mechanical ability of your rifle system? If that answer is: Yes, then you might benefit from chasing the minutiae.
However for the other 99%, our efforts might better be served: practicing wind reading, positional, and building a solid repeatable prone position.
Im learning Henry.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:15 pm
by peerless
In to shoot and help.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:24 pm
by gau17
It's going to be a good match.

9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:01 pm
by evo
Gald to have you back Ray.

Jeff, if you're loading new unfired 6CM brass using quality dies your runout should be quite minimal. I didn't start seeing runout over .002" till my 3rd firing. Even at 5 firings only around 15% of my rounds are more than .002" out of round. I usually just set those aside for positional or practice. If I'm feeling particularly OCD I'll gently bend them back in a vice with rubber jaws.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:17 pm
by Treadstone
Didn't want to hijack the thread but the reason I want to check the concentricity of the reloads I've been making for myself and Jennifer is simply to know what kind of runout my process is producing. If the runout is really bad then it might be something I need to address. I won't know until I quantify the data.

The reloading process is something I enjoy and I want to keep improving my skills in that area too.

I'm not anywhere near the point of thinking I need to buy $500 worth of neck turning tools and gauges. I simply want to know the numbers.

9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:03 pm
by AR15barrels
Ok, we are at 17 shooters right now.
I am looking for a few good helpers to spot and run the line.
I also need helpers to setup and tear down the steel after the match.
I sent out a text message to this effect as well so if you got my text and you are free to help, please post up here...

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:07 pm
by gau17
In to help.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:11 pm
by Treadstone
Jennifer is out for shooting (thumb injury) but will be there to help full time.

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:06 pm
by khw9mm
In to shoot.


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Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:21 pm
by Tomlee337
Just wanted to say thanks guys. I had a blast. Will definitely do it again. Felt like I could have done better.


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Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:46 pm
by Gnzrme
I have gotten used to that feeling...

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:49 pm
by Gnzrme
Fun match today.... thanks to Randall and Solo for running the match...

Michael, stay off the knee and let it rest up.

Thanks to Henry for helping pick up targets...

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:48 pm
by khw9mm
Thanks to Randall, Solo and Rich C for running the match. It's been a long while since my last caprc match, I'm glad I was able to join in with everyone.


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Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:50 pm
by khw9mm
Congrats to the top finishers!! Great shooting!

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Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:59 pm
by Gnzrme
Note to self.... when you pop a primer, clean it out so it doesn't affect feeding for future stages....

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:48 pm
by Tomlee337
I had problems with loose primer pockets today which cause my extractor pin to not pop out because of all the gunk. Thanks Randall for telling me how to fix it. It's all good now.


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Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:38 pm
by deepsix++
Thank you for the match Randal i know it takes a lot of effort

Re: 9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:53 am
by thegiff
Fun match, got better for me after I zeroed my rifle. Zero was .15 mil low and .25mil right. Velocity at 1200 rounds is holding steady at 3150fps.