CaPRC Marksmanship Clinic "B" 4-28-13

Post by **AR15barrels** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:03 pm

Come on out and join us at Angeles for the 2nd part of our new precision rifle shooter series of clinics on Sunday April 28th.
This shoot will have you gathering dope from a 100yd zero out to 600yds as well as work on spotting and calling shots and making corrections from calls.
We wil be continuing with using the features of the scope and how to make accurate soft dope from your hard dope using ballistics software.
You need to have attended (as a shooter) one of our former "A" clinics during 2012 or 2013 in order to attend this clinic as a shooter.
We will limit this to 24 shooters so that those shooters can get maximum range time.
Fees are $75 for non members or $60 for club members.
The entry fee covers the classroom sessions, cold drinks and BBQ lunch and your use of the range for the rest of the day after the clinic is over.
Plan on a full day as the schedule has us shooting until at least 3pm.
You may particpte as a non-shooter, observe the shooting portion of the day and join us for the BBQ for a reduced $20 non-shooter fee.

Tentative schedule as follows:
7:15 Sign-in
7:30 Classroom session on the firing line.
8:15 line goes hot. verify, correct and zero knobs at 100yds (5-10 rds)
10:00 open shooting time with instruction as needed
12:00 BBQ lunch break
1:00 open shooting time with instruction as needed

Some things to bring:
Precision rifle wearing a scope with target knobs, eye/ear protection, sunscreen, chamber flag, 80 rounds of match quality ammo, printout from a ballistics program showing your bullet drop in moa or mils as appropriate to your scope, shooting mat or blanket, bipod, some kind of rear bag or sand sock, small notepad and a pencil or pen to take notes.
Bring what you have, don't worry too much about what you don't have.
We always make do with what we have.

This is a Precision Rifle event so if the gun/scope/ammo is not capable of shooting 1moa groups, it will detract from your overall experience at the shoot.
Please have your rifle zeroed at 100yds and your knobs set to zero before you arrive on the day of the shoot.
We will verify a correct zero at the shoot, but it takes time that is better spent putting rounds on targets.

We are also looking for our experienced club members to show up and help instruct.
If you are able to help on the line, please RSVP anytime.

RSVP's for CaPRC club member shooters will be accepted after 12 noon on Wed 4/17/13.
RSVP's for non club member shooters will be accepted after 12 noon on Friday 4/19/13.
Any RSVP's posted before those times will be ignored or deleted.

The following people will work the line:
AR15barrels
Snappy
Gnzrme
Stoopy
Evo

The following people have acceptably RSVP'd as shooters:
Shooters:
Fumbles
Treadstone
Downrange67
Riksk
Zaggin
xoutxkastx
DrDanMD
Don Vito
Kmullen
Sonarrover
GeminiZ06

Post by **Gnzrme** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:42 pm

I am off so I can help...

But this is on the 4th Sunday, so its going to take the place of our match? If we reschedule, can I suggest the 2nd Sunday?

Post by **Gnzrme** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:45 pm

Just saw the post for the match on the 7th....

Fumbles · Post by **Fumbles** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:06 am

I would like to register for Part B.

I might not be able to shoot due to my mangled thumb

but I will still like to do the classroom and interact in anyway I can during the shooting part.

I hope this is cool.

Oh....BTW, I joined at Part A. Is there any sort of paperwork or member ID/number etc that I should be getting?

Post by **Treadstone** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:36 am

In to learn (and shoot).

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:02 pm

Fumbles wrote: Oh....BTW, I joined at Part A. Is there any sort of paperwork or member ID/number etc that I should be getting?

I don't think so. You're screen name just turns green on this site. I can ask Steven to give you a hug at the "B" clinic if it will make you feel better.

FYI - You should be able to shoot w/o using your thumb.

Fumbles · Post by **Fumbles** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:40 pm

gau17 wrote:FYI - You should be able to shoot w/o using your thumb.

Yeah, I know friend......that's why I said....."I might not be able to shoot due to my mangled thumb" I'm just not sure, but I would like to.

I know I can operate the bolt under normal conditions etc, reload the mag with my left, pull the trigger and hold the stock.....'cos I don't usually wrap my thumb around. But any sort of screw up on my part where I miscalculate, grab something wrong, bang the tip of my thumb..... could have disastrous consequences. I'd rather not chance it. So I will see how much stronger my hand is on the day.

If it were not for my guitar playing future......I wouldn't worry about it so much.

There is also the whole reloading process that adds a whole 'nuther level, and potential for re-injury, to the situation. If I could just find FGMM at reasonable prices, i'd just do that.

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:03 pm

In to shoot!

Fumbles · Post by **Fumbles** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:37 pm

How about name tags with username and real first name?

GforceJunkie · Post by **GforceJunkie** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:13 pm

We had "hello my name is" tags at the a clinic... Never got passed out. Will try this time.

Riksk · Post by **Riksk** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:22 pm

In to shoot!

Post by **Gnzrme** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:16 pm

In to help....

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:18 pm

Fumbles wrote:How about name tags with username and real first name?

That would be helpful even at the matches because I'm horrible with names.

Zaggin · Post by **Zaggin** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:56 pm

In to shoot

xoutxkastx · Post by **xoutxkastx** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:15 pm

In to shoot

DrDanMD · Post by **DrDanMD** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:30 pm

In to shoot

franky882010 · Post by **franky882010** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:39 pm

in to shoot

Frank

Don Vito · Post by **Don Vito** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:40 pm

In to shoot

Kmullen · Post by **Kmullen** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:26 pm

I will be there to shoot
Kevin

MisterMiles · Post by **MisterMiles** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:29 pm

Hello. Guess this is as good a place as any to introduce myself.

My name is Miles, I've been shooting pistols and ar's for a few years now, and recently decided to get into precision shooting. So after lots of research, lots from here, I went out and bought a 700 sps tactical in .308 w/ vortex viper pst 4-16ffp mrad. Then I contacted Nathan for the mounts and the rings. He did more than sell them to me. He actually let me bring the rifle and scope to his garage and then he aided the mounting and install (by aided, I really mean "he did it all himself and provided a wealth of information"). Thanks Nathan.

After lots of online learning and videos, I took my new girl up to Angeles today. Sighted her in at 50yds first, glad I did since with my apparently poor boresighting skills I wasn't even hitting the target with the first few rounds at 50, it took me 14 rounds total before I felt she was good and pushed her back to 100yds, then zeroed her in again. Set my CRS shims, and spent the next few hours really enjoying the peaceful science of it.

While I wasn't able to attend the "A" clinic, I was hoping I might be able to attend this "B" clinic on the 28th if it's not full yet. However I do understand rules are rules and the reasons for them. Regardless I look forward to siphoning as much knowledge as possible from this forum as I progress.

Sonarrover · Post by **Sonarrover** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:12 pm

In to shoot

Zaggin · Post by **Zaggin** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:51 pm

Noob question, but is there a suggested ballistics program to use? I looked up FGMM 175 on their site, but their applications gives adjustments in MOA, not Mils. Thanks!

Short Action Precision · Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:55 pm

Shooter or Ballistics AE

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:57 pm

Ballistic AE is what I use, it used to be called ballistic FTE but they changed the name in one of the updates. I have it on an iPhone. I think others use shooter on android phones.

GeminiZ06 · Post by **GeminiZ06** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:13 pm

Count me in to shoot. Bringing a real mat this time -

Post by **Gnzrme** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:17 pm

Don't worry, we are on the main rifle line, so it will be covered and paved so you will not be laying in the dirt like last time... Plus there will be shade.....

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:50 pm

I'm in to help out. Make sure there is enough propane for the BBQ.

Fumbles · Post by **Fumbles** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:37 pm

Here ya go, took the initiative to get the ball rolling for whoever does this........hope it helps and that I am not oversteppin'. Also hope you can cut 'n paste from my post. Only questionable name for the organizers to decide whether he may attend, is new forum member MisterMiles who did not attend the Marksmanship Clinic Part A.

Will Nathan be there?

Shooters:
1. Fumbles
2. Treadstone
3. Downrange67
4. Riksk
5. Zaggin
6. xoutxkastx
7. DrDanMD
8. Don Vito
9. Kmullen
10. Sonarrover
11. GeminiZ06
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.
23.
24.

Work the line:

1. AR15barrels
2. Gnzrme
3. Stoopy
4. Evo?
5.

DrDanMD · Post by **DrDanMD** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:43 pm

Tackman will be there to help

Post by **AR15barrels** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:03 am

MisterMiles wrote:While I wasn't able to attend the "A" clinic, I was hoping I might be able to attend this "B" clinic on the 28th if it's not full yet. However I do understand rules are rules and the reasons for them. Regardless I look forward to siphoning as much knowledge as possible from this forum as I progress.

Clinic A is a pre-requisite for b , c & d.
We look forward to having you in next years clinics.

MisterMiles · Post by **MisterMiles** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:53 pm

AR15barrels wrote:
Clinic A is a pre-requisite for b , c & d.
We look forward to having you in next years clinics.

Bummer, but understood. Next round then.

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:36 pm

Fumbles wrote:Here ya go, took the initiative to get the ball rolling for whoever does this........hope it helps and that I am not oversteppin'. Also hope you can cut 'n paste from my post. Only questionable name for the organizers to decide whether he may attend, is new forum member MisterMiles who did not attend the Marksmanship Clinic Part A.

Will Nathan be there?

Shooters:
1. Fumbles
2. Treadstone
3. Downrange67
4. Riksk
5. Zaggin
6. xoutxkastx
7. DrDanMD
8. Franky882010
9. Don Vito
10. Kmullen
11. Sonarrover
12. GeminiZ06
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.
23.
24.

Work the line:

1. AR15barrels
2. Gau17
3. Gnzrme
4. Stoopy
5. Tackman

That's all good but I don't recall posting anything about working the line. I have other commitments that day.

Maybe you have me confused with "Top Asian" Danny N???

Fumbles · Post by **Fumbles** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:58 pm

Nah...had you confused with Steven. Sorry. I hope someone takes this off my hands soon so it can be posted in it's rightful place.

evo · Post by **evo** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:23 pm

I'm going to try to make it out to help.

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:34 pm

Fumbles wrote:Nah...had you confused with Steven. Sorry. I hope someone takes this off my hands soon so it can be posted in it's rightful place.

I take offense to that sir. LOL

have fun guys. It should be a very informative class. Take good notes while on the line.

Post by **Gnzrme** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:20 pm

It could be worse Solomon...

Post by **Treadstone** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:16 pm

Shall I bring my spotting scope and tripod?

DrDanMD · Post by **DrDanMD** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:21 pm

Yea bring it Jeff, you can set it up on my target

franky882010 · Post by **franky882010** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:44 pm

I have to withdraw from Sunday. Not happy. Thanks

Fumbles · Post by **Fumbles** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:14 pm

Too bad man. Sorry.

Tackman11 · Post by **Tackman11** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:25 am

Sorry guys, I don't think I could make it. Have fun and see you at the monthly match.

Riksk · Post by **Riksk** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:36 pm

Anyone meeting for breakfast again? I'm down. Just finished my reloads for tomorrow.

Fumbles · Post by **Fumbles** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:22 pm

Hey I would love to join you guys. Would that be cool? If so where and when?

Riksk · Post by **Riksk** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:15 pm

Dang, I'm tired.... Awesome day though. So much fun stretching it out to 600 and getting MOA hits.

These clinics are awesome.

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:28 pm

Great Fun, With a bunch a great guys! Thanks to Randall,Steven,Brad and Reese for all the help!

Post by **Gnzrme** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:30 pm

Somebody left behind a set of bushnell scope covers....

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:38 pm

Steven I forgot to give you back the chamber flag. You want me to bring it next time?

Post by **Gnzrme** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:41 pm

Yeah, that will work....

Don Vito · Post by **Don Vito** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:18 pm

Hay all CAPRC members
Thanks for all the hard work (answering all our noob questions) setting up, BBQing etc.
It was a lot of fun today and reaffirming that what you guys have taught us works, proven by us making the hits.
Ive got to admit though it started off a bit rough for most of us this morning till Snappy showed up and
started barking WTF have you guys been doing!!! everyone started making hits after that. Got to love that.
Steven thanks the scope cover is mine I owe you a beer or two.

Post by **Gnzrme** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:30 pm

No problem.... I will bring it to the next match I make it to...