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				Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:20 pm
				by GforceJunkie
				Discuss... 
 
 

 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:31 pm
				by MichaelV
				I'm thinking con. ex-con.
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:34 pm
				by johnlee
				Strawberry picker.
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:37 pm
				by roypark
				This is why Ho and John are so bad ass.  They don't waste their time trying to look tactical.
  

John looks like he could put the rifle down and hit the driving range.  
After Brian's showing at the last match dressed as Tom Cruise, I've decided to dress like a hipster to the next match.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:53 pm
				by johnlee
				You should come to the match like this:
 
This guy was awesome.  He was all Crye'd out and he had the tactical tan trucker hat.  He even had his blood type on there in case we got into a firefight.  And all shit was embroidered with tactical monogramming:

 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:59 pm
				by roypark
				Nah.  I have a pair of OD green 5.11 pants that I never wear because everytime I put them on, I feel silly.  It seemed like a good idea when I ordered them.  That's the problem with internet shopping.  You can make some bad decisions without thinking of the consequences. I have a closet full of ridiculous crap I bought when I was going through gun owner puberty.  I'll probably never wear or use it, but if zombies ever do attack, I should be ok.  Hahaha.  
On the other hand, I don't own a single article of camo clothing.
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:06 pm
				by Juice5610
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:12 pm
				by GforceJunkie
				johnlee wrote:You should come to the match like this:
Awesome.  Nothing says High Speed/ Low Drag like a 40 lb beer gut 
 
  
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:57 pm
				by brian01tj
				johnlee wrote:Strawberry picker.
 
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:03 pm
				by hochung
				yeah, I am picking strawberry.... but for whatever reason, they call me the sombrero sniper.
 
and, thanks to Kevin, ends up second to last in the CaPRC match.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:12 pm
				by johnlee
				roypark wrote:They don't waste their time trying to look tactical.
  

John looks like he could put the rifle down and hit the driving range.
 
I was just looking through those old Front Sight pics and came across this one:
 
That was the shotgun class.  I wore my Barbour sporting clays vest to that class.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:19 pm
				by roypark
				johnlee wrote:
I was just looking through those old Front Sight pics and came across this one:
 
That was the shotgun class.  I wore my Barbour sporting clays vest to that class.
 
This picture, you look like you could put the gun down and cook up an omelette.  Hahaha.
I've been looking at your expedition albums on your site.  That looks like a ton of fun.  Is there anything I can do to my Yukon to make it able to do that stuff?  I saw pics of Ho cooking up pork belly's with a bottle of soju on the side.  Now that's my kind of expedition!
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:29 pm
				by johnlee
				roypark wrote:Is there anything I can do to my Yukon to make it able to do that stuff?
Uh, sorry, Roy, but you can't polish a turd.
Get a Land Rover.  It's a turd too, but a lovable turd.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:35 pm
				by hochung
				John was dressed like a dork for that weekend:
He's walking from the parking lot:  Scotty Cameron hat, Barbour waxed shit cotton jacket, cheap shit non tactical jeans, and some shit land rover shirt. smoking marlboro lights with his Super duper benelli on his shoulder. I mean, talk about fish out of water. I was there the same weekend, and he was the sore thumb:
 
The other guys in the class were the marine spec ops types, some recon army dudes dressed accordingly:
 
But after the weekend was over, the dorky guy got Distinguished Grad, and the bad ass recon marine guys didn't.  I was rolling on the floor.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:57 pm
				by Juice5610
				hochung wrote:John was dressed like a dork for that weekend:
But after the weekend was over, the dorky guy got Distinguished Grad, and the bad ass recon marine guys didn't.  I was rolling on the floor.
You telling me this badass wasn't on his primary slaying bodies all day?
 
 
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:08 pm
				by roypark
				johnlee wrote:
Uh, sorry, Roy, but you can't polish a turd.
Get a Land Rover.  It's a turd too, but a lovable turd.
I wish I could afford one.  Maybe for my next car.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:17 pm
				by johnlee
				roypark wrote:I wish I could afford one.  Maybe for my next car.
I think you're thinking of the high-end Land Rovers like the Mk3 Range Rover.  These cost like $100,000 new.  Yes, they're very expensive.
Your Yukon is worth far more than the average Land Rover is.  This piece of shit cost me $3,000:
 
It's a 1987.  I bought if off one of our customers who didn't want to see it destroyed in the Cash For Clunkers program.  Look at the stack of registration decals:
 
It's in really good shape too:

 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:21 pm
				by hochung
				Roy, do you feel the Land Rover love?
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:22 pm
				by GforceJunkie
				I never thought I would see the day I would see a Rolex and a Sombrero on the same amigo... 
 
 hochung wrote:yeah, I am picking strawberry.... but for whatever reason, they call me the sombrero sniper.
 
and, thanks to Kevin, ends up second to last in the CaPRC match.
 
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:24 pm
				by hochung
				that's the definition of a struggling immigrant.
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:26 pm
				by roypark
				I do.  I already told my wife about it.  She saw the pictures of your expeditions.  I started with the pics of food and she was like, "I wanna go!"  and then I showed her pics of the terrain and she said, "Oh that looks dangerous."  Hahaha.  
But I'm a bit of a compulsive shopper, so I'll probably be looking at used beat up Rovers for a while now.  You guys kill me!
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:42 am
				by brian01tj
				$3000 as you got it, but how much to make it as it currently sits?
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:38 am
				by johnlee
				My Rangie sits now as I as I got it for three grand.
The market for used Land Rovers was thrown off substantially by the Cash For Clunkers program.  A lot of people walked away from their old Land Rovers for the cash and thus the supply of used Land Rovers is not what it used to be.  I just checked eBay for some comps to see what Rangies are going for and the closest one is probably this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BRITISH- ... 4aa97273c6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You can see the Buy It Now is seven grand.  That's Fantasy Land in my opinion.  The actual bids at just below four grand sound right to me.  That's true market value of what people are willing to pay for a Rangie in good shape.  Looking at the pics of this green Rangie make me realize what a good deal I got.  Mine's in way better shape than this one is.  I was really lucky in that the seller wanted his Rangie to go to good home rather than to the government junkyard or to the highest bidder.
This Disco2 is going for about three grand with no reserve:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-LAN ... 2c5b555f81" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:53 am
				by maddesign
				I just sold my loaded 1999 Rover HSE for $3000 grand, had 110k, old Emu shocks and springs, new battery, valve job, new belts and new tires.
Was asking $4500 and no takers, so the first person with cash in hand walked away with it for $3k...it was a sad day.
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:28 am
				by AR15barrels
				maddesign wrote:I just sold my loaded 1999 Rover HSE for $3000 grand, had 110k, old Emu shocks and springs, new battery, valve job, new belts and new tires.
Was asking $4500 and no takers, so the first person with cash in hand walked away with it for $3k...it was a sad day.
And yet I never saw it listed here for sale.
I would have given you 3000 for it in a heartbeat.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:40 am
				by Short Action Precision
				Me too!!  WTF Sonny!!
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:52 am
				by maddesign
				AR15barrels wrote:
And yet I never saw it listed here for sale.
I would have given you 3000 for it in a heartbeat.
Senior moment, didn't even think about listing it here, had it on Craigslist and parked outside my house with a 'for sale' sign. CL is CRAZY, lot's of time wasters and wack jobs!
sometimes it's best not selling a car to someone you know...
I had a relative bug me that if I ever sell my BMW to let them know. When I decided to sell it, told her about it and she bought it. It was running great when she took it, 4K later, she says there's a problem with the tranny and 'I' should pay for it since I 'knew" about it, WTF?? We don't talk anymore.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:59 am
				by Juice5610
				maddesign wrote:
sometimes it's best not selling a car to someone you know...
I had a relative bug me that if I ever sell my BMW to let them know. When I decided to sell it, told her about it and she bought it. It was running great when she took it, 4K later, she says there's a problem with the tranny and 'I' should pay for it since I 'knew" about it, WTF?? We don't talk anymore.
Yea I would never sell a big ticket item like a car to someone I know.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:01 am
				by Short Action Precision
				What about a Rifle?  Or a scope?  Or a Rolex!!
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:12 am
				by Juice5610
				Iloveguns wrote:What about a Rifle?  Or a scope?  Or a Rolex!!
Thats different those dont usually have the same unforseen problems like a car
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:19 pm
				by johnlee
				I didn't know so many guys on here were contemplating a Land Rover.
I hope you guys score one.  They're great trucks.
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:25 pm
				by BoLeeSwagger
				roypark wrote:Nah.  I have a pair of OD green 5.11 pants that I never wear because everytime I put them on, I feel silly.  It seemed like a good idea when I ordered them.  That's the problem with internet shopping.  You can make some bad decisions without thinking of the consequences. I have a closet full of ridiculous crap I bought when I was going through gun owner puberty.  I'll probably never wear or use it, but if zombies ever do attack, I should be ok.  Hahaha.  
On the other hand, I don't own a single article of camo clothing.
Damn i just ordered my rifle drag bag in ACU. Is this not cool?  The worse thing about this bag is, i am 64" tall(one reason why i wanted a short barrel)  the bag is 51" long, so it looks super funny when i use it like a back pack.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:31 pm
				by johnlee
				BoLeeSwagger wrote:Damn i just ordered my rifle drag bag in ACU. Is this not cool? 
It's cool if you like the bag.
If you got the bag because you were trying to please others, that's never cool.  In fact, it's lame.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:41 pm
				by ta2dtrent
				johnlee wrote:
 In fact, it's lame.
Im surprised its not "GAY" since that seems to be your theme as of late..  
 
  
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:47 pm
				by brian01tj
				John has become used to doing many gay things

 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:49 pm
				by brian01tj
				Hell back in the day him and Ho were even closer

 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:51 pm
				by MichaelV
				roypark wrote: 
 
This is a serious bad ass pic. There is something ominous about a guy in the golf shirt and AR15.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:53 pm
				by MichaelV
				BoLeeSwagger wrote:
Damn i just ordered my rifle drag bag in ACU. Is this not cool?
John's drag bag is made by Titleist.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:02 pm
				by brian01tj
				
Is it me or is one of your legs longer than the other
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:14 pm
				by johnlee
				I think the disparity you're seeing in the pant length is probably just my shitty jeans.
I buy my jeans at Target.
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:15 pm
				by johnlee
				MichaelV wrote:This is a serious bad ass pic. There is something ominous about a guy in the golf shirt and AR15.
It's the Sub.
Your conscious mind sees the AR and golf shirt.
Your subconscious mind (much stronger) sees the Sub.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:23 pm
				by buffybuster
				johnlee wrote:You should come to the match like this:
 
This guy was awesome.  He was all Crye'd out and he had the tactical tan trucker hat.  He even had his blood type on there in case we got into a firefight.  And all shit was embroidered with tactical monogramming:

 
Can't you tell he's a "Real Operator"...............
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:47 pm
				by ta2dtrent
				Brad was all tacticool in his gear last Sunday and shot a GREAT match. Maybe we need some gear like his...Or maybe it was just the hat ???

 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:17 pm
				by buffybuster
				brian01tj wrote:Hell back in the day him and Ho were even closer

 
brian01tj wrote:John has become used to doing many gay things

 
WTF! 

   Where in HELL does this shit come from?  I'm not going to be able to shut my eyes tonight...... as every time I do, I see these images.....
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:37 pm
				by Juice5610
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:41 pm
				by Juice5610
				buffybuster wrote:
WTF! 

   Where in HELL does this shit come from?  I'm not going to be able to shut my eyes tonight...... as every time I do, I see these images.....
 
johnlee wrote:
It's the gayness.
Your conscious mind sees the naked man and beer.
Your subconscious mind (much stronger) sees a life partner.
  
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:14 pm
				by AR15barrels
				 
I take it this was before the part of the class where they show you the value of a sling...
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:28 pm
				by Chris
				MichaelV wrote:
John's drag bag is made by Titleist.
Geez, this fully had my laughing my butt off. I pictured him on a stalk dragging his golf bag behind him with a wood cover over the muzzle.  
 
  
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:30 pm
				by roypark
				AR15barrels wrote: 
I take it this was before the part of the class where they show you the value of a sling...
 
He has a one point sling on.  It's really hard to see.  I missed it too and thought the same thing.
 
			
					
				Re: Tactical hats; Pros/Cons
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:33 pm
				by johnlee
				AR15barrels wrote:I take it this was before the part of the class where they show you the value of a sling...
That's just the rule at Front Sight.  The rifle class is cold range and they require you to have one hand on the weapon, even when it's supported by a sling:
 
 
I think they had problems in the past with weapons detaching from the slings.
If my memory serves, they don't want you grasping the pistol grip either, even with your finger straight like this:
 
 
I must have forgotten about their rules when Ho snapped those pics.  That, or they didn't care if you held the pistol grip.  I can't remember for sure.
For the pistol class, which is a hot range, they don't want you touching your holstered weapon at all.
I just "do as the Romans" whenever I go to a class.