AR15barrels wrote:3 more spots left.

Wish I could get on that list but have to goto Georgia for work tomm and won't be back in time to attend.

I will be there

I need to give up my spot for next weekend. It is rare work gets in the way of my weekends, but stuff happens.

I'll catch the next clinic....

In to help out. Later on in the day some work buddies are planning to come on up.

Guys,
I am flying out tomorrow to Washington to shoot the JC Steel Challenge so I am not going to be able to be there this Sunday.

Solomon is going to be nice enough to rep SAP at the clinic for any shooters who need any bags, bipods, or other gear.

I will help in whatever capacity I can.

autoessentials wrote:Guys,
I am flying out tomorrow to Washington to shoot the JC Steel Challenge so I am not going to be able to be there this Sunday.

Solomon is going to be nice enough to rep SAP at the clinic for any shooters who need any bags, bipods, or other gear.

Good luck, Rich.

Assuming that we're picking up where we left off, and for those that still have the informational booklet from the A-Clinic, should we bring the booklet to the B-Clinic? Or are we starting fresh?

Always trying to save a tree, I am.

More a question for Brad, but I'll take any answer since he rarely chimes in here.

Anyone have 2 extra boxes of federal gold medal match in .308 they wanna sell?

The booklet is not needed for the B clinic as there is no classroom time.


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oni wrote:The booklet is not needed for the B clinic as there is no classroom time.

My bad....I was misled by the B-Clinic description:

The entry fee covers the classroom sessions

ETA: Rather be shooting anyway.

b1gdave32 wrote:Anyone have 2 extra boxes of federal gold medal match in .308 they wanna sell?

Not sure of their prices, but they might have some at the Angeles Range office for sale. You can call them tomorrow @ (818) 899-2255

b1gdave32 wrote:Anyone have 2 extra boxes of federal gold medal match in .308 they wanna sell?

I will have a few boxes extra with me , so you will be covered.

Hollywood_Shooter wrote:
My bad....I was misled by the B-Clinic description:

The classroom sessions in Clinic B are the talks that we give during the line breaks.
Most of the day is shooting/spotting.

elcajon wrote:

I will have a few boxes extra with me , so you will be covered.

Thanks let me know what ya want for em

Postal, I will be up there and I'll bring you the LRF, but I'll be getting there late morning. Randall built me my lightweight 6BR yesterday that looks and feels to have a lot of promise. I am going to be sighting it in with load data I got from Lynn. I think it will be a shooter.

For folks shooting factory 308 ammo, I highly recommend taking a look at 168gr Norma or Nosler match. These two give you about 100fps extra compared to 168gr FGMM, and they are a much better value than FGMM because the cases are much higher quality for when you wish to reload them. The FGMM is in FC brass, which is actually what I use since I have over 3,000 pieces and it is very consistent, but the FC brass is very soft and I find that I only get about 5 firings out of them before the primer pocket is toast. For 308, I use 168gr SMKs with 44.4gr of IMR 4064 at 2.800", which is about 0.015 of the lands in my rifle. That's the best I have done for 0-600 yard .308 Win. Most people favor 175s for .308 since the 168s do poorly at lower velocities; however, while the bullet is 2,000fps+, it's extremely tough to beat. If I were learning .308 now, I'd be looking to use the new tipped 168 SMK as the BCs are impressive. I switched from Varget to IMR 4064 a couple years back when I knew Varget would be very tough to find. I actually stuck with 4064 since it provided me results as consistent/accurate/precise but with higher velocities.

Sorry guys I'm canceling so late, but had to change out my scope, and couldn't find time to zero...


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You can zero at the range

I'm pretty sure you could zero at the beginning of the class. (Edit:Damit! Solomon beat me again!)

Cool, thanks guys!! I'll be there.


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Would a couple of the line helpers who shoot a 308 please bring a rifle and 40 rounds in case we end up with an odd number of shooters.
Clinic B is shot in pairs so we may need someone to fill-in as an extra spotter/shooter.

Will do

AR15barrels wrote:Would a couple of the line helpers who shoot a 308 please bring a rifle and 40 rounds in case we end up with an odd number of shooters.
Clinic B is shot in pairs so we may need someone to fill-in as an extra spotter/shooter.

Ill also bring my .243 and 80+ rounds.

I'm bringing a 308, need to sight in after swapping scopes around.

So Brad is out of town this weekend and won't be able to run the grill.
Who wants to be the grillmaster?

unfortunately will now have to work this weekend and cannot attend.

thank you

Well, If the food is prepped and marinaded, I could do the cooking. Would appreciate another person to help.... Not so great at cooking chicken.... hence the help- white meat sucks anyway.

I can be"In to cook" or whatever is needed.

I can help cook the chicken, I grill around once a week for my family.

Works for me-

Captain Jon or Bruce and I get get this done... or Cap and Bruce.... Think we're covered.

We need more grills/tables?

I could use a couple helpers EARLY, like 6:30am at the range as I did not get out to setup the steel tonight.
Shopping is all done.
The menu is burgers, sausages, garlic bread, beans, potato salad, chips & salsa and some snacks.

postal wrote:Works for me-

Captain Jon or Bruce and I get get this done... or Cap and Bruce.... Think we're covered.

We need more grills/tables?

I have 3 grills and 3 full 20lb propane cylinders.
We always need more tables as there are only a couple of them in that area by the flag pole.
If someone has a camp stove and a propane cylinder, that would be better for the beans than taking up grill space with the pot of beans.

I have a folding table.

Burgers, brats/beans and bread are no problem. I dont need to worry about food poisoning people with undercooked chicken or or making chicken jerky....

Will we be starting the day with a discussion of the effects of humidity on air density and its relationship to ballistics?



.........and IN before the grumbling about Brad not cooking starts...

I just came through Beaumont on my way into town, and there was a torrential downpour. I was a little scared we were going to get rained out and my trip would be for naught.

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GEEKMEDIC wrote:I just came through Beaumont on my way into town, and there was a torrential downpour. I was a little scared we were going to get rained out and my trip would be for naught.

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The line is covered so we will still be shooting.


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Tomorrow is supposed to be a nice day actually.

GEEKMEDIC wrote:I just came through Beaumont on my way into town, and there was a torrential downpour.
I was a little scared we were going to get rained out and my trip would be for naught.

The weather forecast for tomorrow at the range is 75 degrees, sunny, 10mph wind and 0% chance of precipitation.
The cold front that you passed through today is what brought us today's cool weather and rain.

I checked the weather forecast before I left home, but when I was on I-10 and I couldn't see more than 100 yards I had my doubts :-)

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A great time today. Learned a bunch. Thanks to Randall, the helpers and BBQ tenders! The wind kicked my 123 grain butt, so time to load some 140 Berger hybrids!

Awesome Day! Thank you so much to Randall for coordinating this shin dig and especially to those who came and volunteered to help. All of you made a big difference for me. I received many great tips and helps today, made some new friends, learned new stuff, and definitely improved my shooting skills.

Thanks everyone for another awesome day of instruction. What a challenging day with the wind and those tiny little targets.
Thanks to Randall and all the helpers for all the great advice as well as to those who cooked.

First, "Whhhooooaaa" can be a spotting call under certain circumstances.....

2nd -- thank you Randall for all your efforts, and a special thanks to every line helper that gave their time to come out and help all us newbs. Much appreciated!

3rd -- that wind......

I've got a marksmanship booklet for shooter 22, must have blown away. Bro picked it up by the fence.

For any of the new guys (or anyone really) looking for a new KESTREL 4500 with APPLIED BALLISTICS, I found a deal on them. They normally retail for $589.00 (+ tax and/or shipping), but I found a seller that will do $500.00 including shipping.

If you're interested, PM for details.

Is that with Bluetooth?

autoessentials wrote:Is that with Bluetooth?

Negative. I think the Bluetooth adds another $100 to the MSRP

thegiff wrote:I've got a marksmanship booklet for shooter 22, must have blown away. Bro picked it up by the fence.

Oh shit that is my book. Thanks for grabbing it. Can I get the book from you at the next match?

Thanks,

Larry