Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:54 pm
They can use their sling if they have tobrian01tj wrote:
How do you make it safe for people to run up a roof carrying a rifle?
CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
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Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:24 pm
Rather simple really. You make sure people follow your basic safety rules I am sure you guys already have in place.brian01tj wrote:
How do you make it safe for people to run up a roof carrying a rifle?
Muzzle Control
Bolts open
Finger straight.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:43 pm
All of which we follow. That statement was a small attempt at getting him to rethink that stage and allow us to be in a ready to fire position from the start. looks like it didnt workvu308 wrote:
Rather simple really. You make sure people follow your basic safety rules I am sure you guys already have in place.
Muzzle Control
Bolts open
Finger straight.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:44 pm
Only 6 spots open people....lets get these filled plus a couple on the waiting list so we can have a full house this month
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:56 pm
It's more of an issue with the range we shoot at. I have no problems running up it. Others in the club might not be so lucky and either way you look at it Angeles isn't going to like it.brian01tj wrote:
All of which we follow. That statement was a small attempt at getting him to rethink that stage and allow us to be in a ready to fire position from the start. looks like it didnt work
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:01 pm
Anyone, who is staying a few hours after the match, have a chronograph they can bring for me to use? If I shoot it= i buy it and all that jazz.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:09 pm
I might stay for a bit after the match. I'll bring my chrono.GforceJunkie wrote:Anyone, who is staying a few hours after the match, have a chronograph they can bring for me to use? If I shoot it= i buy it and all that jazz.
Are you load testing or developing a DOPE card?
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:22 pm
To do this after the match seems a bit ass backwards........DirtRacer151 wrote: I might stay for a bit after the match. I'll bring my chrono.
Are you load testing or developing a DOPE card?
Have fun gentlemen. Can't make this one, Dad duties this weekend.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:22 pm
Load testing, need to verify velocitys. Thanks, and even if your not staying around long, I really only need to blast a dozen or so rounds over it to get what I want.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:25 pm
no prob.. ill bring it thenGforceJunkie wrote:Load testing, need to verify velocitys. Thanks, and even if your not staying around long, I really only need to blast a dozen or so rounds over it to get what I want.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:30 pm
His reason for asking is that weve found the ballistic programs soft dope doesnt always match hard dope weve gathered when you enter in the velocity that the chrono gave us. This will not always be the case. Mine for example chronoed on two seperate ones at 2670 but my shooter ballistic program only matches my hard dope if I enter the velocity at 2725. Im pretty sure James had to do the same for his as well.GforceJunkie wrote:Load testing, need to verify velocitys. Thanks, and even if your not staying around long, I really only need to blast a dozen or so rounds over it to get what I want.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:45 pm
Is your scope height correct in the ballistic program?brian01tj wrote:
His reason for asking is that weve found the ballistic programs soft dope doesnt always match hard dope weve gathered when you enter in the velocity that the chrono gave us. This will not always be the case. Mine for example chronoed on two seperate ones at 2670 but my shooter ballistic program only matches my hard dope if I enter the velocity at 2725. Im pretty sure James had to do the same for his as well.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:50 pm
Yeah within a few thousandthsoni wrote:
Is your scope height correct in the ballistic program?
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:52 pm
Yes. Chronos don't mean anything for producing dope cards in comparison to using actual dope. I chronoed on 2-3 different chronos when i first built my 260. None of them were as accurate as taking my 1000yd hard dope and adjusting my velocity to match and then building the rest of my dope card off that. In my opinion chronos are really only useful for load development for comparison purposes.oni wrote:
Is your scope height correct in the ballistic program?
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:21 pm
I gotcha, I'm just trying to figure out why my load that is 1 1/2 grains under max, and a very common load is flattening primers. I want to see what velocity it is doing. I'm basically starting totally over with all load develepoment and once I know what i have, then I'll worry about the hard and soft dope, but I cant do shit untill I have something to shoot.
brian01tj wrote:
His reason for asking is that weve found the ballistic programs soft dope doesnt always match hard dope weve gathered when you enter in the velocity that the chrono gave us. This will not always be the case. Mine for example chronoed on two seperate ones at 2670 but my shooter ballistic program only matches my hard dope if I enter the velocity at 2725. Im pretty sure James had to do the same for his as well.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:27 pm
Count me as in for the match, or on the waiting list if it is already full. Or, if I am now behind a crushing mass of humanity, I can help herd cats at the match.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:43 pm
we need more spotters/helpers guys
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:45 pm
I REALLY wanna shoot this match BUT if need be I will sit this one out and help run it. Send me a text on Saturday and let me know.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:05 pm
You can't help til you get Top 308 buddyJuice5610 wrote:I REALLY wanna shoot this match BUT if need be I will sit this one out and help run it. Send me a text on Saturday and let me know.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:07 pm
He's just scared of falling off the roofSwan wrote:
You can't help til you get Top 308 buddy
...or maybe through it
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:32 pm
Listen if no one is going to man up and sit one out I will do it. Its called being a team player. I'm scared of very few things a COF is definitional NOT one of them. I as well as many asked for this COF I would not miss shooting "Randall's revenge" as John so lovingly put it for anything except of course if its for the greater good of the group. Pay your dues to the cub or someone else (me) will. Simply as that.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:35 pm
Juice5610 wrote: Its called being a team player.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:39 pm
Shut up and find me a Surgeon action for 1000 bucksDirtRacer151 wrote:
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:42 pm
Ive got one you can have for 1000 bucks and special favorJuice5610 wrote: Shut up and find me a Surgeon action for 1000 bucks
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:50 pm
Sure I'm down.... for...... ANYTHING.....DirtRacer151 wrote:
Ive got one you can have for 1000 bucks and special favor
(no homo) (ok maybe a little homo) Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:52 pm
Get a room you two....Juice5610 wrote:
Sure I'm down.... for...... ANYTHING.....
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:54 pm
Jose. I was planning to volunteer this month until I heard about the COF, which made me want to shoot it. But I'll still volunteer if it means you can shoot. I was hoping we'd have other volunteers but its not looking good so far.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:56 pm
StraightShooter wrote:
Get a room you two....
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:56 am
"I'll be there"
Joe
Joe
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:48 pm
I'll come help if you guys need it.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:27 pm
I'm sure they will be glad to have you there.PARKER wrote:I'll come help if you guys need it.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:29 pm
I'll be there to help then, and shoot afterward 
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:13 pm
I would be happy to work the line this time around.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:41 am
I woke up yesterday with something nasty.... and no it wasn't Kurtis
Im still planning to be there but I just want to ask that you guys get there on sunday on time please and offer to help out. Im sure ill be only half coherent on meds and we have a heavy load this month due to the new COF so extra help would be much appreciated. thanks guys
Randall- how many spotters are you figuring we need? Im thinking we still need more!
Im still planning to be there but I just want to ask that you guys get there on sunday on time please and offer to help out. Im sure ill be only half coherent on meds and we have a heavy load this month due to the new COF so extra help would be much appreciated. thanks guys
Randall- how many spotters are you figuring we need? Im thinking we still need more!
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:24 pm
4 Spotters.DirtRacer151 wrote:Randall- how many spotters are you figuring we need? Im thinking we still need more!
Two on the left.
One in the center.
One on the right who will also run the timer and do scoring.
The two line RO's will run the timer on the left and middle areas.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:12 pm
Last month I was my own spotter, timer, score keeper and I had to grab a spectator to do the actual spotting cause it was impossible to watch for impacts as well as the manual stop watch I was using as a timer. Not sure of the COF that person is doing but it could be real toughAR15barrels wrote:
4 Spotters.
Two on the left.
One in the center.
One on the right who will also run the timer and do scoring.
The two line RO's will run the timer on the left and middle areas.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:44 pm
The right side can all be run by 1 person if needed.brian01tj wrote:
Last month I was my own spotter, timer, score keeper and I had to grab a spectator to do the actual spotting cause it was impossible to watch for impacts as well as the manual stop watch I was using as a timer. Not sure of the COF that person is doing but it could be real tough
You don't need to see the impacts to spot them when the targets are swingers as they swing long after being hit.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:48 pm
Shooters waiting to shoot can also spot as their is no prep time to worry about.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:29 pm
Shooter that on deck or in the hole will not be able to spot, the will not be on the line and unable to shoulder their weapon.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:33 pm
What about everyone else standing around?snappy wrote:Shooter that on deck or in the hole will not be able to spot, the will not be on the line and unable to shoulder their weapon.
P.S Hey Brad can I use your stiener binos?
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:23 pm
absolutely
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:54 pm
Spotting for a stage through a rifle scope is really just prep time in disguise.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:48 pm
ExactlyConnor P Price wrote:Spotting for a stage through a rifle scope is really just prep time in disguise.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:58 am
James, Connor,
Was a schedule change, I'm available until noon, if need helpers. Nevertheless, I'll be there ~8am.
Was a schedule change, I'm available until noon, if need helpers. Nevertheless, I'll be there ~8am.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:08 am
Thanks henry! See you tomorrow!!buffybuster wrote:James, Connor,
Was a schedule change, I'm available until noon, if need helpers. Nevertheless, I'll be there ~8am.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:15 am
Only BEFORE you have shot the stage. ;)Connor P Price wrote:Spotting for a stage through a rifle scope is really just prep time in disguise.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:17 am
Excellent.buffybuster wrote:James, Connor,
Was a schedule change, I'm available until noon, if need helpers. Nevertheless, I'll be there ~8am.
We have our 3rd line officer.
Henry can run the right area until he has to leave.
His spotters should be more than capable of covering for the last hour or so after he leaves.
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:38 am
First Post.
I met, I believe, Randall at your last Match in February at Angeles Range and was given a card in regards to joining the Forum as well as the club. Regardless, I sent my check in yesterday to become a member, and am looking forward to participating as well as increasing my knowledge. I have a busy day tomorrow, but I do plan on coming out to introduce myself and observe for at least a few hours.
Scott
I met, I believe, Randall at your last Match in February at Angeles Range and was given a card in regards to joining the Forum as well as the club. Regardless, I sent my check in yesterday to become a member, and am looking forward to participating as well as increasing my knowledge. I have a busy day tomorrow, but I do plan on coming out to introduce myself and observe for at least a few hours.
Scott
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:50 am
Welcome to the disease!!!
Re: CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:01 am
Iloveguns wrote:Welcome to the disease!!!
Had it for a LONG time, you guys might make it worse though. ;)