9/13/2015 CAPRC Match

Post by **AR15barrels** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:55 pm

The California Precision Rifle Club is proud to announce their next centerfire match will be Sunday September 13th at the Angeles Ranges.
For details about the Angeles Ranges, see their website: http://www.angelesranges.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Signups start at 7:30am and shooting should start at 8:15am when the line goes hot.
Please arrive at the left side of the Angeles rifle range no later than 7:45am to sign-in and get assigned your shooter numbers.
Your shooters number is also your position on the line so please lineup accordingly.

Match fee is $10 for Caprc members or $30 for non members.
The match fee also includes use of the range after the match is completed.
We usually finish by 1pm.
Bring 70 rounds of match grade ammo.
Be prepared to shoot as close as 10yds and as far as 600yds.
Be prepared to shoot from standing, kneeling, seated, prone and other improvised positions.
Bring a backpack to shoot off of for stages that don't allow a bipod.

This match is open to bolt action and semi-auto rifles from 223 up through 308.
A velocity limit of 3100 fps will be in effect to reduce damage to club-owned steel targets.
Bipods, slings, shooting mats and rear bags are allowed and recommended.
Chamber flags are mandatory and are available from the club if needed.

Line helper RSVP's will be accepted anytime.
Member RSVP's will be accepted anytime.
Non-member RSVP's will be accepted anytime.

Please RSVP by posting "I am in" or "I will be there" as we will ignore "maybe" or "if" RSVP's.
If you RSVP and later figure out that you can't come, please post that as well so we can keep the RSVP list current.

The following people have RSVP'd:
Range Officers:
AR15barrels

Spotters / Range Hands:
gau17
Marc

Shooters:
Gnzrme
LoneWolf
Treadstone
Guardian Mode
Tomlee337
MichaelV
deepsix++
thegiff
Tackman11
albertg
Mobius38
autoessentials
Point of Impact
Downrange67
evo
peerless
khw9mm

Post by **Gnzrme** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:59 pm

I AM OFF.....

IN LIKE FLYNN

LoneWolf · Post by **LoneWolf** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:35 pm

I'm in to shoot and help.

Post by **Treadstone** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:40 pm

Jennifer and I are in to shoot and help.

Guardian Mode · Post by **Guardian Mode** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:04 pm

I am in.

Hi, I'm Alex! I'm a new guy here!
My brother and I decided it's that time to jump in and just do this already. He'll chime in once he sees my post. Lol.
We were at Angeles today and I'm feeling good about my zero, so it's as good a time as any!

Question, do you limit to 5 rounds in a mag?
I once read that rule, but couldn't find it again.
Thanks.

Post by **AR15barrels** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:50 pm

Guardian Mode wrote:Question, do you limit to 5 rounds in a mag?

Sometimes.
It forces you to have to reload.

Tomlee337 · Post by **Tomlee337** » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:10 am

I'm in.

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MichaelV · Post by **MichaelV** » Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:03 am

I'm in to shoot, help, complain, whatever.

Luky · Post by **Luky** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:24 pm

LoneWolf wrote:I'm in to shoot and help.

Hey Phil, I'm on here now. What time were you guys meeting to drive up to this match? I stuck a case in my .260 die but have enough brass prepped to load for this match.

Luky

LoneWolf · Post by **LoneWolf** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:31 pm

Usually between 0530 and 0545. PM me for the meeting spot.

schills · Post by **schills** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:02 pm

All,

Thinking about joining for this match, and if not this one, then definitely future matches. Is 6.5 Creedmoor allowed?

Also, any rimfire matches planned for the future or have those been permanently cancelled?

Cheers,

schills

LoneWolf · Post by **LoneWolf** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:07 pm

6.5 Creedmoor is perfect. Stop thinking and come on out. Either way you'll wish you had sooner.

Not sure about rimfire matches though.

deepsix++ · Post by **deepsix++** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:50 am

in to shoot

Tomlee337 · Post by **Tomlee337** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:56 am

Do I need a chamber flag for Sunday?

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Guardian Mode · Post by **Guardian Mode** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:57 am

Yeah come on out!
It'll be my first match. Same with my friend shooting 308.
I'll be shooting 6.5 Grendel. Only shot that gun a couple times. I figure, it shoots straight...good a time as any.

I have a question about the tactical pillows.
Is there a rule regarding the size or quantity of bags/pillows?
Can I stuff my wardrobe into a backpack and use that as a "rear bag"?

I saw a pic of a guy sitting on his butt with a long legged bipod off his feet.
Is that sort of stuff legal?
Thanks

Post by **Gnzrme** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:03 am

Some stages restrict the usage of extra items like shooting sticks, pillows and rear bags... other stages do not.. So I would say bring it and the match director will let you k n ow what stages you can and cannot use it.

Tackman11 · Post by **Tackman11** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:17 pm

[quote="Tomlee337"]Do I need a chamber flag for Sunday?

Yes, you do. If you don't I'm pretty sure other will have an extra you can borrow. Just come out and have fun

Tomlee337 · Post by **Tomlee337** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:52 pm

Sounds good tackman11.... I already rsvp'd so I'm good to go!

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Post by **thegiff** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:11 am

In to shoot and help out.

Tackman11 · Post by **Tackman11** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:30 am

In to shoot and help

albertg · Post by **albertg** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:00 am

Guardian Mode wrote:I am in.

Hi, I'm Alex! I'm a new guy here!
My brother and I decided it's that time to jump in and just do this already. He'll chime in once he sees my post. Lol.
We were at Angeles today and I'm feeling good about my zero, so it's as good a time as any!

Question, do you limit to 5 rounds in a mag?
I once read that rule, but couldn't find it again.
Thanks.

Yes, I am in as well. I bought a bolt rifle a year ago to get into match shooting with my brother and friend and for some reason it has taken this long to jump in. So including me, that's 3 fngs doing their first match. Hopefully we won't need too much hand holding.

Btw, I'm looking for the COF's from the most recent months. I didn't see them here: http://www.caprc.com/targets/

Also is the 3100fps still the limit? I tend to see some others posting numbers around 3150.

Post by **Mobius38** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:18 pm

Im in!

Post by **Gnzrme** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:53 pm

albertg wrote:
Yes, I am in as well. I bought a bolt rifle a year ago to get into match shooting with my brother and friend and for some reason it has taken this long to jump in. So including me, that's 3 fngs doing their first match. Hopefully we won't need too much hand holding.

Btw, I'm looking for the COF's from the most recent months. I didn't see them here: http://www.caprc.com/targets/

Also is the 3100fps still the limit? I tend to see some others posting numbers around 3150.

You shooting a 6mm? If so, yes keep them below 3150... preferably below 3100

albertg · Post by **albertg** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:36 pm

Gnzrme wrote: You shooting a 6mm? If so, yes keep them below 3150... preferably below 3100

Yes, 6 creedmoor. Ok, thanks.

Also, will I have an opportunity to re-zero after the first stage, assuming its a cold bore stage?

Post by **autoessentials** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:42 am

3150 fps and below is fine.
Typically there is no zero time at a match. If you get a stage at 100y paper that is about as close as you get.

In to shoot

Point of Impact · Post by **Point of Impact** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:40 pm

In to shoot.

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:45 pm

I'm in. Might shoot .308

evo · Post by **evo** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:06 pm

In to shoot/help

Post by **Treadstone** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:40 am

By chance could someone bring a concentricity gauge to the match? I'd like to know how much runout my .308 and 6mm reloads have.

evo · Post by **evo** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:50 am

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:43 am

Honestly Jeff, how do your rounds look on paper? If they are good don't worry about it. You will just mind fuck yourself by using a concentric gauge. If it ain't broke don't go looking for stuff to fix.

If they look like crap, then by all means use it.

buffybuster · Post by **buffybuster** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:31 am

gau17 wrote:Honestly Jeff, how do your rounds look on paper? If they are good don't worry about it. You will just mind fuck yourself by using a concentric gauge. If it ain't broke don't go looking for stuff to fix.

If they look like crap, then by all means use it.

Solo,
Can I quote you and put this into my tagline?...................

Jeff,
In all honesty can you consistently shoot to the mechanical ability of your rifle system? If that answer is: Yes, then you might benefit from chasing the minutiae.
However for the other 99%, our efforts might better be served: practicing wind reading, positional, and building a solid repeatable prone position.

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:00 pm

buffybuster wrote: Solo,
Can I quote you and put this into my tagline?...................

Jeff,
In all honesty can you consistently shoot to the mechanical ability of your rifle system? If that answer is: Yes, then you might benefit from chasing the minutiae.
However for the other 99%, our efforts might better be served: practicing wind reading, positional, and building a solid repeatable prone position.

Im learning Henry.

peerless · Post by **peerless** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:15 pm

In to shoot and help.

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:24 pm

It's going to be a good match.

evo · Post by **evo** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:01 pm

Gald to have you back Ray.

Jeff, if you're loading new unfired 6CM brass using quality dies your runout should be quite minimal. I didn't start seeing runout over .002" till my 3rd firing. Even at 5 firings only around 15% of my rounds are more than .002" out of round. I usually just set those aside for positional or practice. If I'm feeling particularly OCD I'll gently bend them back in a vice with rubber jaws.

Post by **Treadstone** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:17 pm

Didn't want to hijack the thread but the reason I want to check the concentricity of the reloads I've been making for myself and Jennifer is simply to know what kind of runout my process is producing. If the runout is really bad then it might be something I need to address. I won't know until I quantify the data.

The reloading process is something I enjoy and I want to keep improving my skills in that area too.

I'm not anywhere near the point of thinking I need to buy $500 worth of neck turning tools and gauges. I simply want to know the numbers.

Post by **AR15barrels** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:03 pm

Ok, we are at 17 shooters right now.
I am looking for a few good helpers to spot and run the line.
I also need helpers to setup and tear down the steel after the match.
I sent out a text message to this effect as well so if you got my text and you are free to help, please post up here...

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:07 pm

In to help.

Post by **Treadstone** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:11 pm

Jennifer is out for shooting (thumb injury) but will be there to help full time.

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:06 pm

In to shoot.

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Tomlee337 · Post by **Tomlee337** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:21 pm

Just wanted to say thanks guys. I had a blast. Will definitely do it again. Felt like I could have done better.

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Post by **Gnzrme** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:46 pm

I have gotten used to that feeling...

Post by **Gnzrme** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:49 pm

Fun match today.... thanks to Randall and Solo for running the match...

Michael, stay off the knee and let it rest up.

Thanks to Henry for helping pick up targets...

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:48 pm

Thanks to Randall, Solo and Rich C for running the match. It's been a long while since my last caprc match, I'm glad I was able to join in with everyone.

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khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:50 pm

Congrats to the top finishers!! Great shooting!

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Post by **Gnzrme** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:59 pm

Note to self.... when you pop a primer, clean it out so it doesn't affect feeding for future stages....

Tomlee337 · Post by **Tomlee337** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:48 pm

I had problems with loose primer pockets today which cause my extractor pin to not pop out because of all the gunk. Thanks Randall for telling me how to fix it. It's all good now.

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deepsix++ · Post by **deepsix++** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:38 pm

Thank you for the match Randal i know it takes a lot of effort

Post by **thegiff** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:53 am

Fun match, got better for me after I zeroed my rifle. Zero was .15 mil low and .25mil right. Velocity at 1200 rounds is holding steady at 3150fps.