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Ok, my weakest point in shooting besides avoiding parked cars and tire hazards is positional. What would you guys consider "acceptable" accuracy on positional targets:

1-2 MOA unsupported prone
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Is this to generous? I know we have run stages with 3-4 MOA targets sitting and not that many people hit them...

I just watched a video of Jacob/Rifles Only shooting a sub MOA group at 100 yards with a 223 and suppressor off of a barricade kneeling but using a sling too.

Solo, Rich, James and Ryan, what are your standards?


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I would say 4-5 MOA standing, kneeling, and sitting is pretty good. I'll take that any day. Prone 3-4 maybe???

Add a timer and those numbers increase dramatically.


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Off props I would say 1.5 moa should be acceptible.

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What we would like to be capable of and what's realistic are far apart. I would say 2 moa off a prop and 3-4 moa with traditional positions. Although every time we apply this to matches we end up with low hit percentages. If we put up a 4" target at the 220yd line and had people shoot it off bbarricades/tank traps we wouldn't see many hits. I think it's a good size to practice on though and a good goal to set for yourself.


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Yeah.. that's what I am finding out. .. There is a thread the hide talking about this very topic and they have decided that using NRA scoring targets in a scaled down format at say 100-300 yards and keeping track of your scores would be a good way to judge improvement... Maybe something to try...

I didn't shot any PRS matches.. what were the size of the positional targets and how did you do on them. ... Anyone


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It would be nice to shoot a positional stage with plenty of time to see what people are capable of doing


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Maybe will find out tomorrow. Bring your slings and gloves boys.


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So... sitting 88/100, kneeling 59/100 and standing 49/100... pretty poor on the kneeling and standing....


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Tuck your left elbow in that gut. Use what you got

Steven you also don't need to be sending rounds down range. Dry fire5 shots then try shooting 5


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The purpose of this was to get a baseline.... I start at this level... now come the dry fire and positional practice and then I will repeat the test to see if there is improvement...

I cannot tuck that elder and still have the rifle high enough to get a site picture. ...


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Looking at the vid, I guess I could come down on the scope rings...


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^^^yup. What optic are you running ?


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Also if you are running a SAP sling its not quite right. You want the quick adjust to rest flat on the under side of your left hand. If you are not running a SAP sling then thats why you suck!!

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What exactly does "unsupported prone" mean?

I assume no rear bag or bipod, but what about a sling?


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This is a pretty good collection of pictures of ISSF shooters in position. It would be difficult to mimic these without a rifle designed for position shooting, but it gives an idea of how effortless an effective position can look. Also note that some are way off the reservation, especially Martynov. Not that his career has suffered in any way.
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Five rounds quickly on the following, you be one of the top positional shooters at most matches.

1-2 MOA unsupported prone
2-3 MOA sitting
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True that Henry....


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